Discussion:
Watch out for CARMAX
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Stephen Horrillo
2007-06-15 10:26:40 UTC
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The following is from a complaint I just register with the BBB. If you've
had similar problems please contact me...
I purchased a Jaguar XKR from CARMAX's Davie Store on 5/19/07. At which time
I noticed several problems with the car that needed to be fixed. I reported
the issues and left the car with them for repair. When I picked up the car I
noticed that most of my issues were not addressed. While waiting for parts
to arrive for the second round of repairs, I took the car home for a few
days. I found numerous other repair issues. I found 12 warrantee issues.
When I brought the car back I gave the Service Manager, Sammy Warnamally a
printed list, and copies of CARMAX's certification form showing why these
items were covered. I brought my car in on 6/1/07. When I got my car back 14
DAYS later discovered 1) stereo wasn't fixed, 2) second set of keys and
valet key were not in yet, 3) convertible cover was not ordered, 4) trim
around the door handle wasn't addressed 5) visor wasn't replaced "because
Jaguar sent them the wrong part." 6) now the rear view mirror is loose as if
the car suffered a heavy impact or was driven a long distance down a dirt
road. Caked on white mud is on the inside door panels. For 2 weeks I have
been strung along by the service manager. When I asked to pick up my car
until the parts arrived, I was repeatedly told the seats were taken apart
and awaiting a headrest motor from Jaguar so I could not pick it up. Jaguar
Parts Department told me their delivery takes a week at most and parts can
be overnighted for a nominal cost of $6 per item. I was lied to that my car
was ready except for the headrest motors. I was also lied to about the extra
set of keys being there. Despite involvement of Operations Manager Adam
Warner and General Manager Theresa, my vehicle is still not fixed. I have
lost many hours work, suffered grief, and have had to pay $606 payment for a
car I was only able to drive a few days. I am releasing this to the Media,
posting my story on Internet consumer protection websites, forums and
newsgroups to get together a class action lawsuit. I am registering a
complaint with the Attorney General's Office and State Attorney's Office, as
I suspect foul play.
As it is impossible to trust CARMAX, I want all further repairs to be done
at Alpine Jaguar. I want Jaguar to inspect the car for accident/abuse
damage. Compensation for my monthly payment to Capital One for $606. My lost
time and wages estimated at 6 hours at $150 an hour. Grief and punitive
damages will be addressed in another arena.

Stephen Horrillo ***@comcast.net
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Ray O
2007-06-15 15:09:11 UTC
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Post by Stephen Horrillo
The following is from a complaint I just register with the BBB. If you've
had similar problems please contact me...
I purchased a Jaguar XKR from CARMAX's Davie Store on 5/19/07. At which time
I noticed several problems with the car that needed to be fixed. I reported
the issues and left the car with them for repair. When I picked up the car I
noticed that most of my issues were not addressed. While waiting for parts
to arrive for the second round of repairs, I took the car home for a few
days. I found numerous other repair issues. I found 12 warrantee issues.
When I brought the car back I gave the Service Manager, Sammy Warnamally a
printed list, and copies of CARMAX's certification form showing why these
items were covered. I brought my car in on 6/1/07. When I got my car back 14
DAYS later discovered 1) stereo wasn't fixed, 2) second set of keys and
valet key were not in yet, 3) convertible cover was not ordered, 4) trim
around the door handle wasn't addressed 5) visor wasn't replaced "because
Jaguar sent them the wrong part." 6) now the rear view mirror is loose as if
the car suffered a heavy impact or was driven a long distance down a dirt
road. Caked on white mud is on the inside door panels. For 2 weeks I have
been strung along by the service manager. When I asked to pick up my car
until the parts arrived, I was repeatedly told the seats were taken apart
and awaiting a headrest motor from Jaguar so I could not pick it up. Jaguar
Parts Department told me their delivery takes a week at most and parts can
be overnighted for a nominal cost of $6 per item. I was lied to that my car
was ready except for the headrest motors. I was also lied to about the extra
set of keys being there. Despite involvement of Operations Manager Adam
Warner and General Manager Theresa, my vehicle is still not fixed. I have
lost many hours work, suffered grief, and have had to pay $606 payment for a
car I was only able to drive a few days. I am releasing this to the Media,
posting my story on Internet consumer protection websites, forums and
newsgroups to get together a class action lawsuit. I am registering a
complaint with the Attorney General's Office and State Attorney's Office, as
I suspect foul play.
As it is impossible to trust CARMAX, I want all further repairs to be done
at Alpine Jaguar. I want Jaguar to inspect the car for accident/abuse
damage. Compensation for my monthly payment to Capital One for $606. My lost
time and wages estimated at 6 hours at $150 an hour. Grief and punitive
damages will be addressed in another arena.
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Brian Jackson
2007-06-15 17:42:08 UTC
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"Stephen Horrillo" <***@REMOVETHIScomcast.net> wrote in message news:46725d23$1$16288$***@free.teranews.com...

.............. The following is from a complaint I just register with the
BBB. etc, etc.....

Why spam us proper car people with this?? ........... If you lived in the
home country of the car you have purchased you would know NEVER to buy this
'brand' due to the poor track record it has




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Brian Jackson
2007-06-15 17:58:06 UTC
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by 'home' I meant the origin of the marque ...... the UK ........... but
remember your driving a Ford now!




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stu
2007-06-15 21:42:07 UTC
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And you are driving a Toyota !
Post by Brian Jackson
by 'home' I meant the origin of the marque ...... the UK ........... but
remember your driving a Ford now!
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Max
2007-06-16 11:13:57 UTC
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Post by stu
And you are driving a Toyota !
..uh..you say that like it's a *bad* thing?

Besides, Jag's quality has gone UP to "shitty" since
Ford bought it. I had a pre-Ford Jag. You think there's
problems now.....you have no idea what "bad" really is.
stu
2007-06-16 12:57:31 UTC
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Yes. Check out JD Powers latest ratings on their web site. No mention of
Lexus or Toyota anywhere.
Post by Max
Post by stu
And you are driving a Toyota !
..uh..you say that like it's a *bad* thing?
Besides, Jag's quality has gone UP to "shitty" since
Ford bought it. I had a pre-Ford Jag. You think there's
problems now.....you have no idea what "bad" really is.
Max
2007-06-16 13:43:58 UTC
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Post by stu
Yes. Check out JD Powers latest ratings on their web site. No mention of
Lexus or Toyota anywhere.
really?

Of ALL of the manufacturers listed, the ONLY two manufacturers that
got a full 5 rating were Lexus and Porsche.

since you seem to have problems reading your own references, let me
help you:

http://www.jdpower.com/autos/quality-ratings


but then again JDPowers ratings for 07 models aren't based on customer
satisfaction but merely initial quality. Consequently, fit and finish
as well as mechanical reliability won't be determined until next year
(for 07 models). That's where the quality ratings actually make more
sense for the consumer.

And, that's where you see satisfaction ratings plummet for many
non-Japanese vehicles.
Post by stu
Post by Max
Post by stu
And you are driving a Toyota !
..uh..you say that like it's a *bad* thing?
Besides, Jag's quality has gone UP to "shitty" since
Ford bought it. I had a pre-Ford Jag. You think there's
problems now.....you have no idea what "bad" really is.
stu
2007-06-18 21:53:50 UTC
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try and you shall
see....http://www.jdpower.com/articles/article.aspx?ID=253
Post by Max
Post by stu
Yes. Check out JD Powers latest ratings on their web site. No mention of
Lexus or Toyota anywhere.
really?
Of ALL of the manufacturers listed, the ONLY two manufacturers that
got a full 5 rating were Lexus and Porsche.
since you seem to have problems reading your own references, let me
http://www.jdpower.com/autos/quality-ratings
but then again JDPowers ratings for 07 models aren't based on customer
satisfaction but merely initial quality. Consequently, fit and finish
as well as mechanical reliability won't be determined until next year
(for 07 models). That's where the quality ratings actually make more
sense for the consumer.
And, that's where you see satisfaction ratings plummet for many
non-Japanese vehicles.
Post by stu
Post by Max
Post by stu
And you are driving a Toyota !
..uh..you say that like it's a *bad* thing?
Besides, Jag's quality has gone UP to "shitty" since
Ford bought it. I had a pre-Ford Jag. You think there's
problems now.....you have no idea what "bad" really is.
Max
2007-06-19 01:01:12 UTC
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Post by stu
try and you shall
see....http://www.jdpower.com/articles/article.aspx?ID=253
...I can't count how many times JD Powers rated a vehicle high without
ever putting a single mile on it. You'd think by now they'd know
better than even mentioning an Audi.

And come on..a glorified Zephyr? You're kidding me right?

Check back this time next year and see how they rate the same cars.
Elmo P. Shagnasty
2007-06-15 18:07:50 UTC
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Post by Ray O
Post by Stephen Horrillo
The following is from a complaint I just register with the BBB. If you've
had similar problems please contact me...
I purchased a Jaguar XKR from CARMAX's Davie Store on 5/19/07. At which time
I noticed several problems with the car that needed to be fixed. I reported
the issues and left the car with them for repair. When I picked up the car I
noticed that most of my issues were not addressed. While waiting for parts
to arrive for the second round of repairs, I took the car home for a few
days. I found numerous other repair issues. I found 12 warrantee issues.
When I brought the car back I gave the Service Manager, Sammy Warnamally a
printed list, and copies of CARMAX's certification form showing why these
items were covered. I brought my car in on 6/1/07. When I got my car back 14
DAYS later discovered 1) stereo wasn't fixed, 2) second set of keys and
valet key were not in yet, 3) convertible cover was not ordered, 4) trim
around the door handle wasn't addressed 5) visor wasn't replaced "because
Jaguar sent them the wrong part." 6) now the rear view mirror is loose as if
the car suffered a heavy impact or was driven a long distance down a dirt
road. Caked on white mud is on the inside door panels. For 2 weeks I have
been strung along by the service manager. When I asked to pick up my car
until the parts arrived, I was repeatedly told the seats were taken apart
and awaiting a headrest motor from Jaguar so I could not pick it up. Jaguar
Parts Department told me their delivery takes a week at most and parts can
be overnighted for a nominal cost of $6 per item. I was lied to that my car
was ready except for the headrest motors. I was also lied to about the extra
set of keys being there. Despite involvement of Operations Manager Adam
Warner and General Manager Theresa, my vehicle is still not fixed. I have
lost many hours work, suffered grief, and have had to pay $606 payment for a
car I was only able to drive a few days. I am releasing this to the Media,
posting my story on Internet consumer protection websites, forums and
newsgroups to get together a class action lawsuit. I am registering a
complaint with the Attorney General's Office and State Attorney's Office, as
I suspect foul play.
As it is impossible to trust CARMAX, I want all further repairs to be done
at Alpine Jaguar. I want Jaguar to inspect the car for accident/abuse
damage. Compensation for my monthly payment to Capital One for $606. My lost
time and wages estimated at 6 hours at $150 an hour. Grief and punitive
damages will be addressed in another arena.
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Instead of quoting full and replying with one line, go away.
GIga
2007-06-16 03:00:49 UTC
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Post by Elmo P. Shagnasty
Post by Ray O
Post by Stephen Horrillo
The following is from a complaint I just register with the BBB. If you've
had similar problems please contact me...
I purchased a Jaguar XKR from CARMAX's Davie Store on 5/19/07. At which time
I noticed several problems with the car that needed to be fixed. I reported
the issues and left the car with them for repair. When I picked up the
car
I
noticed that most of my issues were not addressed. While waiting for parts
to arrive for the second round of repairs, I took the car home for a few
days. I found numerous other repair issues. I found 12 warrantee issues.
When I brought the car back I gave the Service Manager, Sammy Warnamally a
printed list, and copies of CARMAX's certification form showing why these
items were covered. I brought my car in on 6/1/07. When I got my car
back
14
DAYS later discovered 1) stereo wasn't fixed, 2) second set of keys and
valet key were not in yet, 3) convertible cover was not ordered, 4) trim
around the door handle wasn't addressed 5) visor wasn't replaced "because
Jaguar sent them the wrong part." 6) now the rear view mirror is loose
as
if
the car suffered a heavy impact or was driven a long distance down a dirt
road. Caked on white mud is on the inside door panels. For 2 weeks I have
been strung along by the service manager. When I asked to pick up my car
until the parts arrived, I was repeatedly told the seats were taken apart
and awaiting a headrest motor from Jaguar so I could not pick it up. Jaguar
Parts Department told me their delivery takes a week at most and parts can
be overnighted for a nominal cost of $6 per item. I was lied to that my car
was ready except for the headrest motors. I was also lied to about the extra
set of keys being there. Despite involvement of Operations Manager Adam
Warner and General Manager Theresa, my vehicle is still not fixed. I have
lost many hours work, suffered grief, and have had to pay $606 payment
for
a
car I was only able to drive a few days. I am releasing this to the Media,
posting my story on Internet consumer protection websites, forums and
newsgroups to get together a class action lawsuit. I am registering a
complaint with the Attorney General's Office and State Attorney's
Office,
as
I suspect foul play.
As it is impossible to trust CARMAX, I want all further repairs to be done
at Alpine Jaguar. I want Jaguar to inspect the car for accident/abuse
damage. Compensation for my monthly payment to Capital One for $606. My lost
time and wages estimated at 6 hours at $150 an hour. Grief and punitive
damages will be addressed in another arena.
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Instead of spamming a Lexus ng, try alt.autos.jaguar.
Instead of quoting full and replying with one line, go away.
Sounds like great advice ShagMoron. Why don't you take it?
Elmo P. Shagnasty
2007-06-16 12:14:25 UTC
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Post by GIga
Post by Elmo P. Shagnasty
Post by Ray O
Post by Stephen Horrillo
The following is from a complaint I just register with the BBB. If you've
had similar problems please contact me...
I purchased a Jaguar XKR from CARMAX's Davie Store on 5/19/07. At which time
I noticed several problems with the car that needed to be fixed. I reported
the issues and left the car with them for repair. When I picked up the
car
I
noticed that most of my issues were not addressed. While waiting for parts
to arrive for the second round of repairs, I took the car home for a few
days. I found numerous other repair issues. I found 12 warrantee issues.
When I brought the car back I gave the Service Manager, Sammy Warnamally a
printed list, and copies of CARMAX's certification form showing why these
items were covered. I brought my car in on 6/1/07. When I got my car
back
14
DAYS later discovered 1) stereo wasn't fixed, 2) second set of keys and
valet key were not in yet, 3) convertible cover was not ordered, 4) trim
around the door handle wasn't addressed 5) visor wasn't replaced "because
Jaguar sent them the wrong part." 6) now the rear view mirror is loose
as
if
the car suffered a heavy impact or was driven a long distance down a dirt
road. Caked on white mud is on the inside door panels. For 2 weeks I have
been strung along by the service manager. When I asked to pick up my car
until the parts arrived, I was repeatedly told the seats were taken apart
and awaiting a headrest motor from Jaguar so I could not pick it up. Jaguar
Parts Department told me their delivery takes a week at most and parts can
be overnighted for a nominal cost of $6 per item. I was lied to that my car
was ready except for the headrest motors. I was also lied to about the extra
set of keys being there. Despite involvement of Operations Manager Adam
Warner and General Manager Theresa, my vehicle is still not fixed. I have
lost many hours work, suffered grief, and have had to pay $606 payment
for
a
car I was only able to drive a few days. I am releasing this to the Media,
posting my story on Internet consumer protection websites, forums and
newsgroups to get together a class action lawsuit. I am registering a
complaint with the Attorney General's Office and State Attorney's
Office,
as
I suspect foul play.
As it is impossible to trust CARMAX, I want all further repairs to be done
at Alpine Jaguar. I want Jaguar to inspect the car for accident/abuse
damage. Compensation for my monthly payment to Capital One for $606. My lost
time and wages estimated at 6 hours at $150 an hour. Grief and punitive
damages will be addressed in another arena.
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Instead of spamming a Lexus ng, try alt.autos.jaguar.
Instead of quoting full and replying with one line, go away.
Sounds like great advice ShagMoron. Why don't you take it?
Go to dictionary.com and look up "sarcasm".
eddie
2007-06-16 17:49:27 UTC
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I agree with the original lister. His point about Carmax should be viewed as
a general point. Jags can be good cars. Lexus can have bad cars. The point
is the poor service from Carmax.

Rob
Post by Stephen Horrillo
The following is from a complaint I just register with the BBB. If you've
had similar problems please contact me...
I purchased a Jaguar XKR from CARMAX's Davie Store on 5/19/07. At which time
I noticed several problems with the car that needed to be fixed. I reported
the issues and left the car with them for repair. When I picked up the car I
noticed that most of my issues were not addressed. While waiting for parts
to arrive for the second round of repairs, I took the car home for a few
days. I found numerous other repair issues. I found 12 warrantee issues.
When I brought the car back I gave the Service Manager, Sammy Warnamally a
printed list, and copies of CARMAX's certification form showing why these
items were covered. I brought my car in on 6/1/07. When I got my car back 14
DAYS later discovered 1) stereo wasn't fixed, 2) second set of keys and
valet key were not in yet, 3) convertible cover was not ordered, 4) trim
around the door handle wasn't addressed 5) visor wasn't replaced "because
Jaguar sent them the wrong part." 6) now the rear view mirror is loose as if
the car suffered a heavy impact or was driven a long distance down a dirt
road. Caked on white mud is on the inside door panels. For 2 weeks I have
been strung along by the service manager. When I asked to pick up my car
until the parts arrived, I was repeatedly told the seats were taken apart
and awaiting a headrest motor from Jaguar so I could not pick it up. Jaguar
Parts Department told me their delivery takes a week at most and parts can
be overnighted for a nominal cost of $6 per item. I was lied to that my car
was ready except for the headrest motors. I was also lied to about the extra
set of keys being there. Despite involvement of Operations Manager Adam
Warner and General Manager Theresa, my vehicle is still not fixed. I have
lost many hours work, suffered grief, and have had to pay $606 payment for a
car I was only able to drive a few days. I am releasing this to the Media,
posting my story on Internet consumer protection websites, forums and
newsgroups to get together a class action lawsuit. I am registering a
complaint with the Attorney General's Office and State Attorney's Office, as
I suspect foul play.
As it is impossible to trust CARMAX, I want all further repairs to be done
at Alpine Jaguar. I want Jaguar to inspect the car for accident/abuse
damage. Compensation for my monthly payment to Capital One for $606. My lost
time and wages estimated at 6 hours at $150 an hour. Grief and punitive
damages will be addressed in another arena.
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Max
2007-06-16 17:57:31 UTC
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On Sat, 16 Jun 2007 12:49:27 -0500, "eddie"
Post by eddie
I agree with the original lister. His point about Carmax should be viewed as
a general point. Jags can be good cars. Lexus can have bad cars. The point
is the poor service from Carmax.
Rob
..and..more on point, the OP was complaining about a *specific*
CARMAX. It sounds more of a bad management problem there than
some kind of corporate policy.
Elmo P. Shagnasty
2007-06-16 19:58:50 UTC
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Post by eddie
Jags can be good cars.
The odds of which are very low.
Post by eddie
Lexus can have bad cars.
The odds of which are very low.



If it's your $70,000, where do you place your bet?
eddie
2007-06-17 03:25:40 UTC
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Where do I put my $70 grand?

Not on this news group. If this was my only source I wouldn't by a Lexus or
a Jag, or a Ford or ..........

If it's your $70,000, where do you place your bet?
Post by Stephen Horrillo
The following is from a complaint I just register with the BBB. If you've
had similar problems please contact me...
I purchased a Jaguar XKR from CARMAX's Davie Store on 5/19/07. At which time
I noticed several problems with the car that needed to be fixed. I reported
the issues and left the car with them for repair. When I picked up the car I
noticed that most of my issues were not addressed. While waiting for parts
to arrive for the second round of repairs, I took the car home for a few
days. I found numerous other repair issues. I found 12 warrantee issues.
When I brought the car back I gave the Service Manager, Sammy Warnamally a
printed list, and copies of CARMAX's certification form showing why these
items were covered. I brought my car in on 6/1/07. When I got my car back 14
DAYS later discovered 1) stereo wasn't fixed, 2) second set of keys and
valet key were not in yet, 3) convertible cover was not ordered, 4) trim
around the door handle wasn't addressed 5) visor wasn't replaced "because
Jaguar sent them the wrong part." 6) now the rear view mirror is loose as if
the car suffered a heavy impact or was driven a long distance down a dirt
road. Caked on white mud is on the inside door panels. For 2 weeks I have
been strung along by the service manager. When I asked to pick up my car
until the parts arrived, I was repeatedly told the seats were taken apart
and awaiting a headrest motor from Jaguar so I could not pick it up. Jaguar
Parts Department told me their delivery takes a week at most and parts can
be overnighted for a nominal cost of $6 per item. I was lied to that my car
was ready except for the headrest motors. I was also lied to about the extra
set of keys being there. Despite involvement of Operations Manager Adam
Warner and General Manager Theresa, my vehicle is still not fixed. I have
lost many hours work, suffered grief, and have had to pay $606 payment for a
car I was only able to drive a few days. I am releasing this to the Media,
posting my story on Internet consumer protection websites, forums and
newsgroups to get together a class action lawsuit. I am registering a
complaint with the Attorney General's Office and State Attorney's Office, as
I suspect foul play.
As it is impossible to trust CARMAX, I want all further repairs to be done
at Alpine Jaguar. I want Jaguar to inspect the car for accident/abuse
damage. Compensation for my monthly payment to Capital One for $606. My lost
time and wages estimated at 6 hours at $150 an hour. Grief and punitive
damages will be addressed in another arena.
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Stephen Horrillo
2007-06-22 13:04:44 UTC
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As always, Carfax the vehicle, have an idependent shop go over it with a
fine tooth comb, NEVER drive off without ALL issues documented and dates
scheduled. I learned my lesson a long time ago.
Hope it works out for you...
Post by Stephen Horrillo
The following is from a complaint I just register with the BBB. If
you've
The Carfax looked fine. One owner. Carfax only shows when it is taken into a
dealerhip. There many holes in a Carfax report. BTW, CARMAX does not let you
just drive it off to a shop, besides it would take more than a day to have
Jaguar dealer look at it. That's just not going to happen. So CARMAX has all
these points of certification they're supposed to go through. Most of these
issues I didn't know were wrong untill I read the manual cover to cover. For
example the hearests are ajustable and the motors were bad. The rear
speakers weren't working but the sub-woofers were. Yet there's no fader nob.
You need to go into the setup to get it to fade to real. With all the
speakers in that car it all sounds like everthings fine until you try the
fader.

Their policy is that if you don't finance or buy the car in full they keep
it up for sale. There's no such thing as holding it with a deposit. Or
taking it to a Jag dealer to chek it out. That's why they have all thes e
guarantees in place. There was no way to make demands, then have them fix
it. I would still be paying the finance company for a car that they are
taking their sweet time fixing. Either way this is going to happen.

All the best,

Stephen
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