Window wind noise on Lexus ES300?

[c***@yahoo.com]

Dear Experts,

This past weekend, I looked at buying a used Lexus
from the 1998 to 2000 era.

I noticed that the doors don't have a frame for
the window. Instead the window rolls up into the
car body. When you roll down the window half way,
and open the door, you have to push the door body
to shut the door. Otherwise, you could break the
window if you pushed it. Other cars you could push
the window frame.

Now, this is not about how I shut the door. That's
not the issue.

I'm thinking that this is like my old Subaru. Which used
to give me issues with wind noise. And draft.
Especially in the cold.

What's your experience with this? Do these Lexus windows
roll up cleanly into the body, and give a good seal?
Or, do they make wind noise?

What if the car was ever in an accident?

Thanks

[St. John Smythe]

Post by c***@yahoo.com
I'm thinking that this is like my old Subaru. Which used
to give me issues with wind noise. And draft.
Especially in the cold.
What's your experience with this? Do these Lexus windows
roll up cleanly into the body, and give a good seal?
Or, do they make wind noise?

Keep in mind that a specific design goal for the Lexus was minimizing
NVH (noise, vibration and harshness). Yes, they're plenty quiet, unless
damaged. Do take a test ride and experience it for yourself, rather
than worrying speculatively.

Post by c***@yahoo.com
What if the car was ever in an accident?

Sounds as though you're suggesting that window frames somehow make the
car safer. Note that the Lexus has side pillars, so the support that
might otherwise have been provided by the window frames (which don't do
much good if the door is sprung open) is provided by the
permanently-in-place pillars.

Hope this helps,

[sdfasdf]

replying to St. John Smythe, sdfasdf wrote:
Much noisier than the Camry V6 from same year. Window frame with huge rubber
gasket keeps out wind noise on the Camry. The Lexus has wind noise coming in
from the windows.