Discussion:
oil change frequency - please help
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Adam
2009-04-06 19:17:20 UTC
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I have a 2000 Lexus ES300.

What is the recommended oil change frequency?
How about minor/intermediate/major service frequency?
Which service is most crucial? Which service is least crucial?
bluto
2009-04-06 22:33:41 UTC
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Maintenance schedules and service levels are in the supplemental owners
handbook and include minor and intermediate services. There are also
diagrams showing location of parts for service in the last sections of the
owners manual.

Lexus.com also has maintenance schedules online if somehow you can't find
the supplement.
Post by Adam
I have a 2000 Lexus ES300.
What is the recommended oil change frequency?
How about minor/intermediate/major service frequency?
Which service is most crucial? Which service is least crucial?
Adam
2009-04-06 23:22:04 UTC
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Thanks! Really appreciate it.
Post by bluto
Maintenance schedules and service levels are in the supplemental owners
handbook and include minor and intermediate services. There are also
diagrams showing location of parts for service in the last sections of the
owners manual.
Lexus.com also has maintenance schedules online if somehow you can't find
the supplement.
Post by Adam
I have a 2000 Lexus ES300.
What is the recommended oil change frequency?
How about minor/intermediate/major service frequency?
Which service is most crucial? Which service is least crucial?
Steve
2009-04-06 23:55:51 UTC
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"Adam" <***@no_thanks.com> wrote in message news:grdkim$6ou$***@news.motzarella.org...
|I have a 2000 Lexus ES300.
|
| What is the recommended oil change frequency?
| How about minor/intermediate/major service frequency?
| Which service is most crucial? Which service is least crucial?
|


Adam (and Others Interested In Extended Drain Interval Oil Changes):

The 3,000 mile oil change is dead. Extended Drain Intervals are
becoming more and more normal.

Petroleum based oils may be - safely - left in the vehicle for 5,000
to 7,500 miles based on driving habits.

If you will use AMSOIL synthetic lubricants and Nanofiber Technology
Oil Filters, you can start changing your oil and filter ONCE every
25,000 miles or 1 year - whichever comes first.

AMSOIL was the first synthetic since 1972 and is the only synthetic
that recommends extended drain intervals.

The recommended weight oil is 5W-30 and the oil in the link below may
be changed at 25,000 mile intervals if you will also use AMSOIL's
Nanofiber Technology Oil Filter.
https://www.amsoil.com/redirect.cgi?zo=1690163&page=storefront/asl

Read about AMSOIL's Nanofiber Technology Oil Filters Here - Filters
Particles Down To 1 Micron In Size:
AMSOIL NANOFIBER TECHNOLOGY KEEPS THE OIL ANALYTICALLY CLEAN
https://www.amsoil.com/redirect.cgi?zo=1690163&page=storefront/eao

Comparative Motor Oil Testing Data On Some Very Popular Motor Oils
http://www.amsoil.com/redirect.cgi?zo=1690163&page=performancetests/g1971/index

8.2 Percent Increase In Fuel Mileage - SAE J1321 Test Proven!
https://www.amsoil.com/redirect.cgi?zo=1690163&page=testimonials/8pt2_morempg

Become A Preferred Customer - Save 25 - 30 Percent Off Retail Pricing
https://www.amsoil.com/redirect.cgi?zo=1690163&page=accountmaintenance

Thank You For Allowing This Recommendation.
--
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AMSOIL - The "Once A Year" Oil Change
Unemployed Car Guy - Trying To Earn A Living
35 Years of G.M. Parts Experience
AutoCAD R14 Certified - 2D & 3D (ACIS solids)
URL: http://synthetic-oil-tech.com/1690163
Email: ***@charter.net
Adam
2009-04-07 01:32:28 UTC
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Post by Steve
|I have a 2000 Lexus ES300.
|
| What is the recommended oil change frequency?
| How about minor/intermediate/major service frequency?
| Which service is most crucial? Which service is least crucial?
|
The 3,000 mile oil change is dead. Extended Drain Intervals are
becoming more and more normal.
Petroleum based oils may be - safely - left in the vehicle for 5,000
to 7,500 miles based on driving habits.
If you will use AMSOIL synthetic lubricants and Nanofiber Technology
Oil Filters, you can start changing your oil and filter ONCE every
25,000 miles or 1 year - whichever comes first.
AMSOIL was the first synthetic since 1972 and is the only synthetic
that recommends extended drain intervals.
The recommended weight oil is 5W-30 and the oil in the link below may
be changed at 25,000 mile intervals if you will also use AMSOIL's
Nanofiber Technology Oil Filter.
https://www.amsoil.com/redirect.cgi?zo=1690163&page=storefront/asl
Read about AMSOIL's Nanofiber Technology Oil Filters Here - Filters
AMSOIL NANOFIBER TECHNOLOGY KEEPS THE OIL ANALYTICALLY CLEAN
https://www.amsoil.com/redirect.cgi?zo=1690163&page=storefront/eao
Comparative Motor Oil Testing Data On Some Very Popular Motor Oils
http://www.amsoil.com/redirect.cgi?zo=1690163&page=performancetests/g1971/index
Post by Steve
8.2 Percent Increase In Fuel Mileage - SAE J1321 Test Proven!
https://www.amsoil.com/redirect.cgi?zo=1690163&page=testimonials/8pt2_morempg
Become A Preferred Customer - Save 25 - 30 Percent Off Retail Pricing
https://www.amsoil.com/redirect.cgi?zo=1690163&page=accountmaintenance
Thank You For Allowing This Recommendation.
--
Steve Spence
Independent AMSOIL Dealer
AMSOIL - The "Once A Year" Oil Change
Unemployed Car Guy - Trying To Earn A Living
35 Years of G.M. Parts Experience
AutoCAD R14 Certified - 2D & 3D (ACIS solids)
URL: http://synthetic-oil-tech.com/1690163
Really? It's now 5,000 (not 3,000) mile oil change?
One mechanic told me that there's residue if
oil changes are done less frequently than 3,500 miles,
which is why I sent this post for confirmation.
Anonymous
2009-04-07 02:18:41 UTC
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Post by Steve
Post by Steve
|I have a 2000 Lexus ES300.
|
| What is the recommended oil change frequency?
| How about minor/intermediate/major service frequency?
| Which service is most crucial? Which service is least crucial?
|
The 3,000 mile oil change is dead. Extended Drain Intervals are
becoming more and more normal.
Petroleum based oils may be - safely - left in the vehicle for 5,000
to 7,500 miles based on driving habits.
If you will use AMSOIL synthetic lubricants and Nanofiber Technology
Oil Filters, you can start changing your oil and filter ONCE every
25,000 miles or 1 year - whichever comes first.
AMSOIL was the first synthetic since 1972 and is the only synthetic
that recommends extended drain intervals.
The recommended weight oil is 5W-30 and the oil in the link below may
be changed at 25,000 mile intervals if you will also use AMSOIL's
Nanofiber Technology Oil Filter.
https://www.amsoil.com/redirect.cgi?zo=1690163&page=storefront/asl
Read about AMSOIL's Nanofiber Technology Oil Filters Here - Filters
AMSOIL NANOFIBER TECHNOLOGY KEEPS THE OIL ANALYTICALLY CLEAN
https://www.amsoil.com/redirect.cgi?zo=1690163&page=storefront/eao
Comparative Motor Oil Testing Data On Some Very Popular Motor Oils
http://www.amsoil.com/redirect.cgi?zo=1690163&page=performancetests/g1971/index
Post by Steve
8.2 Percent Increase In Fuel Mileage - SAE J1321 Test Proven!
https://www.amsoil.com/redirect.cgi?zo=1690163&page=testimonials/8pt2_morempg
Become A Preferred Customer - Save 25 - 30 Percent Off Retail Pricing
https://www.amsoil.com/redirect.cgi?zo=1690163&page=accountmaintenance
Thank You For Allowing This Recommendation.
--
Steve Spence
Independent AMSOIL Dealer
AMSOIL - The "Once A Year" Oil Change
Unemployed Car Guy - Trying To Earn A Living
35 Years of G.M. Parts Experience
AutoCAD R14 Certified - 2D & 3D (ACIS solids)
URL: http://synthetic-oil-tech.com/1690163
Really? It's now 5,000 (not 3,000) mile oil change?
One mechanic told me that there's residue if
oil changes are done less frequently than 3,500 miles,
which is why I sent this post for confirmation.
I guess I'm really far too cautious with my
~2K dino oil changes in my bike and car.
Steve
2009-04-07 03:39:01 UTC
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"Anonymous" <***@com.com> wrote in message news:sKyCl.13641$***@flpi150.ffdc.sbc.com...
| > Really? It's now 5,000 (not 3,000) mile oil change?
| > One mechanic told me that there's residue if
| > oil changes are done less frequently than 3,500 miles,
| > which is why I sent this post for confirmation.
| >
| >
| I guess I'm really far too cautious with my
| ~2K dino oil changes in my bike and car.
|


A Direct Copy and Paste from AMSOIL's web site
QUOTE

Key Limitations For API Licensed Formulas
Phosphorous content - .06% minimum to .08% maximum
(API SM; 0W-20, 5W-20, 0W-30, 5W-30, 10W-30 viscosity grades, only)

NOACK volatility - 15% maximum
The prevalent sources of phosphorous in motor oils are additives
called zinc dithiophosphates (ZDPs). These versatile additives
contribute to reduced oxidation, corrosion and wear. The automobile
manufacturers, however, have demanded that lubricants contain a
maximum of only .08% phosphorous. Their reason is some manufacturers
believe higher phosphorous content levels will poison the catalytic
converters on their cars before they reach 120,000 miles, which is the
number of miles that vehicles are required to pass EPA emission
standards. There is not total agreement within the automotive and
lubrication industry about whether phosphorous levels over .08%
actually do harm catalytic converters in the long run. What they have
failed to make allowances for is the NOACK volatility of an oil, the
volatility of the phosphorus itself, or the oil drain intervals.

The maximum allowable NOACK volatility percentage for the SM/GF-4
passenger car motor oil specification is 15%. Most of AMSOIL motor
oils are in the 5% to 8% NOACK volatility range. There is a
correlation between NOACK volatility and oil consumption, which ends
up in the exhaust gasses. Therefore, higher phosphorous, low
volatility oils present no more risk to catalytic converters than low
phosphorous oils with higher volatility. This has also been
demonstrated for years in actual application through state mandated
exhaust gas testing on our Dealers' and customers' high mileage
vehicles using AMSOIL synthetic motor oils. State inspectors are
continually amazed at the low emissions levels generated by vehicles
using AMSOIL products. So much for poisoning catalytic converters.
END QUOTE

My Summary
By changing petroleum oil at 2K intervals, you are actually
introducing more ZDP (phosphorous) into the exhaust system due to the
higher volatility (burn off rate) of the petroleum based oil.

If you'd like to know more and the newsgroup doesn't mind, I'll be
happy to post several educational articles.
--
Steve Spence
Independent AMSOIL Dealer
AMSOIL - The "Once A Year" Oil Change
Unemployed Car Guy - Trying To Earn A Living
35 Years of G.M. Parts Experience
AutoCAD R14 Certified - 2D & 3D (ACIS solids)
URL: http://synthetic-oil-tech.com/1690163
Email: ***@charter.net
|
Anonymous
2009-04-07 06:23:59 UTC
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Post by Steve
| > Really? It's now 5,000 (not 3,000) mile oil change?
| > One mechanic told me that there's residue if
| > oil changes are done less frequently than 3,500 miles,
| > which is why I sent this post for confirmation.
| >
| >
| I guess I'm really far too cautious with my
| ~2K dino oil changes in my bike and car.
|
A Direct Copy and Paste from AMSOIL's web site
QUOTE
Key Limitations For API Licensed Formulas
Phosphorous content - .06% minimum to .08% maximum
(API SM; 0W-20, 5W-20, 0W-30, 5W-30, 10W-30 viscosity grades, only)
NOACK volatility - 15% maximum
The prevalent sources of phosphorous in motor oils are additives
called zinc dithiophosphates (ZDPs). These versatile additives
contribute to reduced oxidation, corrosion and wear. The automobile
manufacturers, however, have demanded that lubricants contain a
maximum of only .08% phosphorous. Their reason is some manufacturers
believe higher phosphorous content levels will poison the catalytic
converters on their cars before they reach 120,000 miles, which is the
number of miles that vehicles are required to pass EPA emission
standards. There is not total agreement within the automotive and
lubrication industry about whether phosphorous levels over .08%
actually do harm catalytic converters in the long run. What they have
failed to make allowances for is the NOACK volatility of an oil, the
volatility of the phosphorus itself, or the oil drain intervals.
The maximum allowable NOACK volatility percentage for the SM/GF-4
passenger car motor oil specification is 15%. Most of AMSOIL motor
oils are in the 5% to 8% NOACK volatility range. There is a
correlation between NOACK volatility and oil consumption, which ends
up in the exhaust gasses. Therefore, higher phosphorous, low
volatility oils present no more risk to catalytic converters than low
phosphorous oils with higher volatility. This has also been
demonstrated for years in actual application through state mandated
exhaust gas testing on our Dealers' and customers' high mileage
vehicles using AMSOIL synthetic motor oils. State inspectors are
continually amazed at the low emissions levels generated by vehicles
using AMSOIL products. So much for poisoning catalytic converters.
END QUOTE
My Summary
By changing petroleum oil at 2K intervals, you are actually
introducing more ZDP (phosphorous) into the exhaust system due to the
higher volatility (burn off rate) of the petroleum based oil.
If you'd like to know more and the newsgroup doesn't mind, I'll be
happy to post several educational articles.
--
Steve Spence
Independent AMSOIL Dealer
AMSOIL - The "Once A Year" Oil Change
Unemployed Car Guy - Trying To Earn A Living
35 Years of G.M. Parts Experience
AutoCAD R14 Certified - 2D & 3D (ACIS solids)
URL: http://synthetic-oil-tech.com/1690163
|
People live their specialties. Yours is oil. Mine are
elsewhere. Thus, my technical understanding of the
material you reference would be at best, limited.

Additionally, the last thing I wish is to begin an oil
thread. I've seen those and they're not pretty.

You may send the material to this reply address,
and I'll look it over. And I'll take any further
questions and/or comments offline.

Thanks.
j***@hotmail.com
2009-04-08 05:42:44 UTC
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No, 2K is fine with dino. Actually 3K is fine. Mercedes and BMW use
high specification synthetic oils (Group IV/V, no Group III), that's
why they can go 15,000-20,000 miles.

In a Lexus, even if you use the stringent MB209/BMW LL-01 synthetic
oil you can still go up to 5000 miles or void remaining powertrain
warranty. (Toyota wants you to prove with oil change receipts). It's
an engine design issue.
Post by Anonymous
I guess I'm really far too cautious with my
~2K dino oil changes in my bike and car.
Anonymous
2009-04-08 15:31:57 UTC
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<***@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:c9b591c8-9302-4744-8815-***@l1g2000yqk.googlegroups.com...
No, 2K is fine with dino. Actually 3K is fine. Mercedes and BMW use
high specification synthetic oils (Group IV/V, no Group III), that's
why they can go 15,000-20,000 miles.

In a Lexus, even if you use the stringent MB209/BMW LL-01 synthetic
oil you can still go up to 5000 miles or void remaining powertrain
warranty. (Toyota wants you to prove with oil change receipts). It's
an engine design issue.


Thanks....
Post by Anonymous
I guess I'm really far too cautious with my
~2K dino oil changes in my bike and car.
Gary L. Burnore
2009-04-08 15:41:49 UTC
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Post by j***@hotmail.com
No, 2K is fine with dino. Actually 3K is fine. Mercedes and BMW use
high specification synthetic oils (Group IV/V, no Group III), that's
why they can go 15,000-20,000 miles.
In a Lexus, even if you use the stringent MB209/BMW LL-01 synthetic
oil you can still go up to 5000 miles or void remaining powertrain
warranty. (Toyota wants you to prove with oil change receipts).
Easy enough. Buy 6qts of oil and a filter for the receipt and either donate
the oil and filter to charity or take it back for a refund later. :)
Post by j***@hotmail.com
It's an engine design issue.
No, it's a make money for the service dept issue.
Post by j***@hotmail.com
Thanks....
Post by Anonymous
I guess I'm really far too cautious with my
~2K dino oil changes in my bike and car.
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j***@hotmail.com
2009-04-11 01:15:32 UTC
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Hee hee hee. That might work, except for VW / Audi, where they specify
service receipts. So don't know if they'll actually honor parts
receipts.
Easy enough.  Buy 6qts of oil and a filter for the receipt and either donate
the oil and filter to charity or take it back for a refund later.  :)
Steve
2009-04-11 15:22:26 UTC
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<***@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:f85d8018-4dc8-4633-bfc9-***@q33g2000pra.googlegroups.com...
Hee hee hee. That might work, except for VW / Audi, where they specify
service receipts. So don't know if they'll actually honor parts
receipts.
Easy enough. Buy 6qts of oil and a filter for the receipt and either
donate
the oil and filter to charity or take it back for a refund later. :)
The excerpt was copied and pasted from this link:
http://www.amsoil.com/redirect.cgi?zo=1690163&page=articlespr/2005/article_sludge

THE VW/AUDI LETTER
Today's automakers are well aware of the problems associated with
conventional petroleum motor oils knowing that engine designs have
been a contributing factor in the sludge problem. One reason is that
engine compartments are smaller and hotter than in the old days. They
put more demands on motor oil. Another reason, though, is that with
all those brain boxes and sensors, engines simply need to be kept
cleaner or they don't run right.
This summer VW/Audi of America sent a letter to vehicle owners
informing owners of 1998-2004 VW Passats and 1997-2004 Audi A4s that
they will receive extended warranty coverage on the 1.8L turbocharged
engines. In the letter, VW/Audi recommended synthetic 5W-40 engine
oils that meet the VW 502.00 spec because the use of petroleum oils
increases the risk of sludge formation.

To their credit VW/Audi does not require that the oil be changed at
the dealership. Vehicle owners simply need to keep records of their
oil and filter maintenance.

The reason VW/Audi took this stance is easy to surmise. Execs at
VW/Audi did not want to get embroiled in the oil related storms that
cost Mercedes 32 million dollars or Toyota's bad press due to sludge
problems.

TROUBLES AT TOYOTA
In recent years Toyota has also had to deal with serious sludge
issues. A 2002 article in Automotive News detailed the high volume of
sludge related complaints received by Toyota.

The trouble centered around Toyota's 3.0-liter Sienna V-6 engine. With
over 3.3 million such engines the problem could not easily be hidden
in a glove compartment. I had become aware of the problem even before
it appeared in print.

Accusations flew that the engine was flawed (Toyota, owners spar over
sludge, Automotive News, Feb 8, 2002) but Toyota would never
acknowledge this. (Toyota to Cover Oil Gelation Damage, by Tim
Sullivan, Lube Report, Feb 27, 2002)

The Automotive News article cites numerous sources to make its case.
Larry Perry, an A.S.E.-Certified Master Technician who owns a repair
shop and hosts a radio talk show in Florida was quoted as saying, "We
believe Toyota reduced the size of the cooling passages to the
cylinder heads in those engines in order to increase combustion
temperatures for more of a complete burn to reduce exhaust emissions."
Perry, who has seen more than his share of sludge problems went on to
say, "the solution is to use only 100% synthetic motor oil."

In the end, Toyota Motor Sales USA made a one time offer to cover the
repairs to vehicles damaged by sludge. For Toyota, this was the
tangible price they paid for sludge.
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AMSOIL - The "Once A Year" Oil Change
35 Years of G.M. Parts Experience
URL: http://synthetic-oil-tech.com/1690163
Email: ***@charter.net
Gary L. Burnore
2009-04-11 16:40:16 UTC
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Post by j***@hotmail.com
Hee hee hee. That might work, except for VW / Audi, where they specify
service receipts. So don't know if they'll actually honor parts
receipts.
Were one to contest that, VW/Audi would likely lose. They can't MAKE you pay
someone else to change your oil if you can prove you did.
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richard
2009-04-07 20:22:28 UTC
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Post by Steve
Post by Steve
|I have a 2000 Lexus ES300.
|
| What is the recommended oil change frequency?
| How about minor/intermediate/major service frequency?
| Which service is most crucial? Which service is least crucial?
|
The 3,000 mile oil change is dead. Extended Drain Intervals are
becoming more and more normal.
Petroleum based oils may be - safely - left in the vehicle for 5,000
to 7,500 miles based on driving habits.
If you will use AMSOIL synthetic lubricants and Nanofiber Technology
Oil Filters, you can start changing your oil and filter ONCE every
25,000 miles or 1 year - whichever comes first.
AMSOIL was the first synthetic since 1972 and is the only synthetic
that recommends extended drain intervals.
The recommended weight oil is 5W-30 and the oil in the link below may
be changed at 25,000 mile intervals if you will also use AMSOIL's
Nanofiber Technology Oil Filter.
https://www.amsoil.com/redirect.cgi?zo=1690163&page=storefront/asl
Read about AMSOIL's Nanofiber Technology Oil Filters Here - Filters
AMSOIL NANOFIBER TECHNOLOGY KEEPS THE OIL ANALYTICALLY CLEAN
https://www.amsoil.com/redirect.cgi?zo=1690163&page=storefront/eao
Comparative Motor Oil Testing Data On Some Very Popular Motor Oils
http://www.amsoil.com/redirect.cgi?zo=1690163&page=performancetests/g1971/index
Post by Steve
8.2 Percent Increase In Fuel Mileage - SAE J1321 Test Proven!
https://www.amsoil.com/redirect.cgi?zo=1690163&page=testimonials/8pt2_morempg
Become A Preferred Customer - Save 25 - 30 Percent Off Retail Pricing
https://www.amsoil.com/redirect.cgi?zo=1690163&page=accountmaintenance
Thank You For Allowing This Recommendation.
--
Steve Spence
Independent AMSOIL Dealer
AMSOIL - The "Once A Year" Oil Change
Unemployed Car Guy - Trying To Earn A Living
35 Years of G.M. Parts Experience
AutoCAD R14 Certified - 2D & 3D (ACIS solids)
URL: http://synthetic-oil-tech.com/1690163
Really? It's now 5,000 (not 3,000) mile oil change?
One mechanic told me that there's residue if
oil changes are done less frequently than 3,500 miles,
which is why I sent this post for confirmation.
That mechanic tried to make more moneys from you. There is no such
residue. Some mechanics claim they can produce electricity out of nothing,
you know that's bogus.

If you have no record of the last oil change, what will you do?

Take the common sense, do not be alarmed, 1-yr oil change is possible but I
wouldn't wait that long, I check the oil stick, if I see the oil is sticky
that means it's time change. Normally I change every 6 months even with
synthetic oil that claims to be good for 1-yr.
Adam
2009-04-08 15:28:14 UTC
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Post by Adam
Post by Steve
|I have a 2000 Lexus ES300.
|
| What is the recommended oil change frequency?
| How about minor/intermediate/major service frequency?
| Which service is most crucial? Which service is least crucial?
|
The 3,000 mile oil change is dead. Extended Drain Intervals are
becoming more and more normal.
Petroleum based oils may be - safely - left in the vehicle for 5,000
to 7,500 miles based on driving habits.
If you will use AMSOIL synthetic lubricants and Nanofiber Technology
Oil Filters, you can start changing your oil and filter ONCE every
25,000 miles or 1 year - whichever comes first.
AMSOIL was the first synthetic since 1972 and is the only synthetic
that recommends extended drain intervals.
The recommended weight oil is 5W-30 and the oil in the link below may
be changed at 25,000 mile intervals if you will also use AMSOIL's
Nanofiber Technology Oil Filter.
https://www.amsoil.com/redirect.cgi?zo=1690163&page=storefront/asl
Read about AMSOIL's Nanofiber Technology Oil Filters Here - Filters
AMSOIL NANOFIBER TECHNOLOGY KEEPS THE OIL ANALYTICALLY CLEAN
https://www.amsoil.com/redirect.cgi?zo=1690163&page=storefront/eao
Comparative Motor Oil Testing Data On Some Very Popular Motor Oils
http://www.amsoil.com/redirect.cgi?zo=1690163&page=performancetests/g1971/index
Post by Adam
Post by Steve
8.2 Percent Increase In Fuel Mileage - SAE J1321 Test Proven!
https://www.amsoil.com/redirect.cgi?zo=1690163&page=testimonials/8pt2_morempg
Post by Adam
Post by Steve
Become A Preferred Customer - Save 25 - 30 Percent Off Retail Pricing
https://www.amsoil.com/redirect.cgi?zo=1690163&page=accountmaintenance
Thank You For Allowing This Recommendation.
--
Steve Spence
Independent AMSOIL Dealer
AMSOIL - The "Once A Year" Oil Change
Unemployed Car Guy - Trying To Earn A Living
35 Years of G.M. Parts Experience
AutoCAD R14 Certified - 2D & 3D (ACIS solids)
URL: http://synthetic-oil-tech.com/1690163
Really? It's now 5,000 (not 3,000) mile oil change?
One mechanic told me that there's residue if
oil changes are done less frequently than 3,500 miles,
which is why I sent this post for confirmation.
That mechanic tried to make more money from you. There is no such
residue. Some mechanics claim they can produce electricity out of nothing,
you know that's bogus.
If you have no record of the last oil change, what will you do?
Take the common sense, do not be alarmed, 1-yr oil change is possible but I
wouldn't wait that long, I check the oil stick, if I see the oil is sticky
that means it's time change. Normally I change every 6 months even with
synthetic oil that claims to be good for 1-yr.
Yeah, the mechanic might be trying to make more money.
I'll check the oil stick around 3,500 miles and go from there.
What type of oil do mechanics use these days?
Gary L. Burnore
2009-04-08 15:39:41 UTC
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Post by Adam
Post by Steve
|I have a 2000 Lexus ES300.
|
| What is the recommended oil change frequency?
| How about minor/intermediate/major service frequency?
| Which service is most crucial? Which service is least crucial?
|
The 3,000 mile oil change is dead. Extended Drain Intervals are
becoming more and more normal.
Petroleum based oils may be - safely - left in the vehicle for 5,000
to 7,500 miles based on driving habits.
If you will use AMSOIL synthetic lubricants and Nanofiber Technology
Oil Filters, you can start changing your oil and filter ONCE every
25,000 miles or 1 year - whichever comes first.
AMSOIL was the first synthetic since 1972 and is the only synthetic
that recommends extended drain intervals.
The recommended weight oil is 5W-30 and the oil in the link below may
be changed at 25,000 mile intervals if you will also use AMSOIL's
Nanofiber Technology Oil Filter.
https://www.amsoil.com/redirect.cgi?zo=1690163&page=storefront/asl
Read about AMSOIL's Nanofiber Technology Oil Filters Here - Filters
AMSOIL NANOFIBER TECHNOLOGY KEEPS THE OIL ANALYTICALLY CLEAN
https://www.amsoil.com/redirect.cgi?zo=1690163&page=storefront/eao
Comparative Motor Oil Testing Data On Some Very Popular Motor Oils
http://www.amsoil.com/redirect.cgi?zo=1690163&page=performancetests/g1971/index
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Post by Steve
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Post by Steve
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Thank You For Allowing This Recommendation.
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Really? It's now 5,000 (not 3,000) mile oil change?
One mechanic told me that there's residue if
oil changes are done less frequently than 3,500 miles,
which is why I sent this post for confirmation.
That mechanic tried to make more money from you. There is no such
residue. Some mechanics claim they can produce electricity out of nothing,
you know that's bogus.
If you have no record of the last oil change, what will you do?
Take the common sense, do not be alarmed, 1-yr oil change is possible but I
wouldn't wait that long, I check the oil stick, if I see the oil is sticky
that means it's time change. Normally I change every 6 months even with
synthetic oil that claims to be good for 1-yr.
Yeah, the mechanic might be trying to make more money.
I'll check the oil stick around 3,500 miles and go from there.
What type of oil do mechanics use these days?
This mechanic uses nothing but Valvoline Full Synthetic in both cars and
motorcycles. One change per year. Niiiiice. AMSOIL may have been first, but
it's not the only. The only one I'd NOT use is Mobile One (unless they've
changed the formula to give it a clear color and not BLACK).
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2009-04-09 01:55:51 UTC
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| This mechanic uses nothing but Valvoline Full Synthetic in both cars
and
| motorcycles. One change per year. Niiiiice. AMSOIL may have been
first, but
| it's not the only. The only one I'd NOT use is Mobile One (unless
they've
| changed the formula to give it a clear color and not BLACK).
| --
| ***@databasix dot com

Click on the link below and read how Valvoline Full Synthetic compared
to AMSOIL:
http://www.amsoil.com/redirect.cgi?zo=1690163&page=performancetests/g1971/index

And, if you're going to change the oil once a year, you need to use
AMSOIL's Synthetic Nanofiber Technologh Oil Filter:
https://www.amsoil.com/redirect.cgi?zo=1690163&page=storefront/eao

If you own motorcycles, the link below compares other popular
lubricants to AMSOIL:
https://www.amsoil.com/redirect.cgi?zo=1690163&page=products/streetbikes/WhitePaper

Become a Preferred Customer and Save 25 to 30 Percent off of Retail
Price:
https://www.amsoil.com/redirect.cgi?zo=1690163&page=accountmaintenance
--
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Independent AMSOIL Dealer
AMSOIL - The "Once A Year" Oil Change
35 Years of G.M. Parts Experience
URL: http://synthetic-oil-tech.com/1690163
Email: ***@charter.net
Anonymous
2009-04-09 16:39:19 UTC
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Post by Steve
| This mechanic uses nothing but Valvoline Full Synthetic in both cars
and
| motorcycles. One change per year. Niiiiice. AMSOIL may have been
first, but
| it's not the only. The only one I'd NOT use is Mobile One (unless
they've
| changed the formula to give it a clear color and not BLACK).
| --
Click on the link below and read how Valvoline Full Synthetic compared
http://www.amsoil.com/redirect.cgi?zo=1690163&page=performancetests/g1971/index
And, if you're going to change the oil once a year, you need to use
https://www.amsoil.com/redirect.cgi?zo=1690163&page=storefront/eao
If you own motorcycles, the link below compares other popular
https://www.amsoil.com/redirect.cgi?zo=1690163&page=products/streetbikes/WhitePaper
Become a Preferred Customer and Save 25 to 30 Percent off of Retail
https://www.amsoil.com/redirect.cgi?zo=1690163&page=accountmaintenance
--
Steve Spence
Independent AMSOIL Dealer
AMSOIL - The "Once A Year" Oil Change
35 Years of G.M. Parts Experience
URL: http://synthetic-oil-tech.com/1690163
I'd never really heard too much about Amsoil
until seeing your messages in this group.

Apparently, I'm just reading the wrong groups,
because you've managed to gain a reputation
around the usenet community.

As example, here is some discussion in alt.trucks.
ford where group members are emailing your
product's manufacturer concerning your actions.
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.trucks.ford/browse_thread/thread/2f4dce5a19641af0/4686fbd02bc4ff6d?hl=en&q=%2B%22amsoil%22

And here, in rec.autos.tech, an Amsoil repre-
sentative is responding to apparent contact(s)
about your actions over there also, Although,
I'm not quite sure why the Amsoil webmaster
has been assigned the task of this rebuttal?
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.autos.tech/browse_thread/thread/161627b771019153/a16770e0a0d15eb5?hl=en&q=%2B%22amsoil%22

Apparently, there are many more examples....

I have no ax to grind with Amsoil, or with you
as an individual or Amsoil dealer. However, I
would suggest that you might tone down the
rhetoric a little if you really want to promote
the Amsoil product(s). Like anything else, if
they're good/wonderful/amazing, customers
will come to you without any sales pitch.

Sorry, for the interruption.
j***@hotmail.com
2009-04-08 05:39:06 UTC
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In 2004, Toyota specified that ALL Toyota vehicles', yes that includes
Lexus, oil change intervals are now 5000 miles. This was done because
these engines are prone to oil sludge. If you check on the Toyota
Lexus web site you find these are now all 5000 miles. You go 5001
miles and "technically" you void any remaining powertrain warranty.

I know, 5000 miles is a joke. That said, Mercedes are still getting up
to 18,000-20,000 mile oil change intervals. BMWs up to 15,000 miles.
GM and Honda/Acuras 12,000 miles. Even VW/Audi are good for 10,000
miles.

As far as maintenance goes, if you look at the items done, other than
"visually inspect", the dealer charges you a lot for not a whole lot
of work done beyond what's done during a typical oil change service.
Post by Adam
I have a 2000 Lexus ES300.
What is the recommended oil change frequency?
How about minor/intermediate/major service frequency?
Which service is most crucial?  Which service is least crucial?
Elder
2009-04-11 14:00:18 UTC
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Post by j***@hotmail.com
In 2004, Toyota specified that ALL Toyota vehicles', yes that includes
Lexus, oil change intervals are now 5000 miles. This was done because
these engines are prone to oil sludge. If you check on the Toyota
Lexus web site you find these are now all 5000 miles. You go 5001
miles and "technically" you void any remaining powertrain warranty.
I know, 5000 miles is a joke. That said, Mercedes are still getting up
to 18,000-20,000 mile oil change intervals. BMWs up to 15,000 miles.
GM and Honda/Acuras 12,000 miles. Even VW/Audi are good for 10,000
miles.
As far as maintenance goes, if you look at the items done, other than
"visually inspect", the dealer charges you a lot for not a whole lot
of work done beyond what's done during a typical oil change service.
Except in europe where it is still 10k miles or 1 year, at least for the
IS200/IS300 and longer for the IS250, the IS220 Diesel I don't know but
it is usually shorter.

You still get A, B, and C services, with C being the major, mileage
point service, A being a minor filters and fluids, and B being the
48month full service including a more thorough inspection.

And to keep a warranty, those services can be carried out by a non
franchise dealer, as long as schedule and requirements are followed and
a record stamped in the book. You can legally do it yourself if you have
the knowledge.
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