Discussion:
GPS did not adjust for daylight savings time
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Jeff
2007-11-04 19:00:30 UTC
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Hi

I have a new GS430 and live in the Eastern Time zone. During the night
the clocks were to fall back 1 hour. The clock on my GS430 did not
adjust for this even though it is set for "automatic GPS adjust" and
"Daylight Savings".

Funny thing: I adjusted it manually. To do so the navigation system
manual says to temporarily take it off automatic GPS adjust. Worked
fine, but as soon as I put the automatic GPS adjust back on, the clock
removed my correction and jumped forward an hour to the wrong time!
Obviously the GPS satellite has the wrong time. So after several tries,
I left the automatic GPS clock adjust off to keep the correct time I had
manually set.

Anyone else noticed the same thing?

Jeff
Ray O
2007-11-04 20:26:14 UTC
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Post by Jeff
Hi
I have a new GS430 and live in the Eastern Time zone. During the night
the clocks were to fall back 1 hour. The clock on my GS430 did not adjust
for this even though it is set for "automatic GPS adjust" and "Daylight
Savings".
Funny thing: I adjusted it manually. To do so the navigation system
manual says to temporarily take it off automatic GPS adjust. Worked fine,
but as soon as I put the automatic GPS adjust back on, the clock removed
my correction and jumped forward an hour to the wrong time! Obviously the
GPS satellite has the wrong time. So after several tries, I left the
automatic GPS clock adjust off to keep the correct time I had manually
set.
Anyone else noticed the same thing?
Jeff
I bet the system is programmed with the old dates for daylight saving time
changes, and most devices with automatic daylight savings time adjustments
will have the same problem.
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Ray O
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Jeff
2007-11-04 21:16:10 UTC
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Thank is what I thought.

Jeff
Post by Ray O
Post by Jeff
Hi
I have a new GS430 and live in the Eastern Time zone. During the
night the clocks were to fall back 1 hour. The clock on my GS430
did not adjust for this even though it is set for "automatic GPS
adjust" and "Daylight Savings".
Funny thing: I adjusted it manually. To do so the navigation system
manual says to temporarily take it off automatic GPS adjust. Worked
fine, but as soon as I put the automatic GPS adjust back on, the
clock removed my correction and jumped forward an hour to the wrong
time! Obviously the GPS satellite has the wrong time. So after
several tries, I left the automatic GPS clock adjust off to keep the
correct time I had manually set.
Anyone else noticed the same thing?
Jeff
I bet the system is programmed with the old dates for daylight saving
time changes, and most devices with automatic daylight savings time
adjustments will have the same problem.
Copper Emeritus
2007-11-04 23:29:51 UTC
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Post by Ray O
Post by Jeff
Hi
I have a new GS430 and live in the Eastern Time zone. During the night
the clocks were to fall back 1 hour. The clock on my GS430 did not
adjust for this even though it is set for "automatic GPS adjust" and
"Daylight Savings".
Funny thing: I adjusted it manually. To do so the navigation system
manual says to temporarily take it off automatic GPS adjust. Worked
fine, but as soon as I put the automatic GPS adjust back on, the clock
removed my correction and jumped forward an hour to the wrong time!
Obviously the GPS satellite has the wrong time. So after several tries,
I left the automatic GPS clock adjust off to keep the correct time I had
manually set.
Anyone else noticed the same thing?
Jeff
I bet the system is programmed with the old dates for daylight saving time
changes, and most devices with automatic daylight savings time adjustments
will have the same problem.
--
Ray O
(correct punctuation to reply)
I.m not a big fan of DST, but if it was a programming issue, should it not
have changed LAST weekend?
Ray O
2007-11-05 01:17:45 UTC
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Post by Copper Emeritus
Post by Ray O
Post by Jeff
Hi
I have a new GS430 and live in the Eastern Time zone. During the night
the clocks were to fall back 1 hour. The clock on my GS430 did not
adjust for this even though it is set for "automatic GPS adjust" and
"Daylight Savings".
Funny thing: I adjusted it manually. To do so the navigation system
manual says to temporarily take it off automatic GPS adjust. Worked
fine, but as soon as I put the automatic GPS adjust back on, the clock
removed my correction and jumped forward an hour to the wrong time!
Obviously the GPS satellite has the wrong time. So after several tries,
I left the automatic GPS clock adjust off to keep the correct time I had
manually set.
Anyone else noticed the same thing?
Jeff
I bet the system is programmed with the old dates for daylight saving
time changes, and most devices with automatic daylight savings time
adjustments will have the same problem.
--
Ray O
(correct punctuation to reply)
I.m not a big fan of DST, but if it was a programming issue, should it not
have changed LAST weekend?
Good point! I would imagine that it would have changed last weekend.
--
Ray O
(correct punctuation to reply)
njbok
2007-11-05 02:56:26 UTC
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Post by Jeff
Hi
I have a new GS430 and live in the Eastern Time zone. During the night
the clocks were to fall back 1 hour. The clock on my GS430 did not
adjust for this even though it is set for "automatic GPS adjust" and
"Daylight Savings".
Funny thing: I adjusted it manually. To do so the navigation system
manual says to temporarily take it off automatic GPS adjust. Worked
fine, but as soon as I put the automatic GPS adjust back on, the clock
removed my correction and jumped forward an hour to the wrong time!
Obviously the GPS satellite has the wrong time. So after several tries,
I left the automatic GPS clock adjust off to keep the correct time I had
manually set.
Anyone else noticed the same thing?
Jeff
I thought the deal was to hit the DST button "off" after DST ends .......
Do that, and the time corrects. Next year, we turn it on again. In other
words, I think we're expected to do that manually.
Jeff
2007-11-05 12:56:50 UTC
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Post by njbok
Post by Jeff
Hi
I have a new GS430 and live in the Eastern Time zone. During the
night the clocks were to fall back 1 hour. The clock on my GS430
did not adjust for this even though it is set for "automatic GPS
adjust" and "Daylight Savings".
Funny thing: I adjusted it manually. To do so the navigation system
manual says to temporarily take it off automatic GPS adjust. Worked
fine, but as soon as I put the automatic GPS adjust back on, the
clock removed my correction and jumped forward an hour to the wrong
time! Obviously the GPS satellite has the wrong time. So after
several tries, I left the automatic GPS clock adjust off to keep the
correct time I had manually set.
Anyone else noticed the same thing?
Jeff
I thought the deal was to hit the DST button "off" after DST ends
....... Do that, and the time corrects. Next year, we turn it on
again. In other words, I think we're expected to do that manually.
It would seem to me that doing it manually sort of defeats the entire
idea of getting the time automatically from the satellite - not to speak
of having to crank out the owner's manual (which just tells you to go to
the navigation ownsers manual) just to find where the darn clock
controls are in the navigation menu. In earlier Lexus models, there were
hour and minute buttons right on the dashboard that made changing the
time much easier. Looks like a step backwards rather than forwards.
Elmo P. Shagnasty
2007-11-05 13:15:21 UTC
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Post by Jeff
It would seem to me that doing it manually sort of defeats the entire
idea of getting the time automatically from the satellite
The satellite doesn't give you the time. It gives you a time code.
It's up to your local device to know what local time to display based on
that time code.

And your local device must know about whatever time zone, daylight
savings time, or UTC offset you're in.
j***@hotmail.com
2007-11-09 05:35:42 UTC
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I wonder if there is a program update for that model of Fujitsu-Ten
GPS. The excellent Garmin units have periodic program updates and one
free map update. So you might want to check with the dealer and see if
that's an option. Also check if you can get a free map update.
Microsoft did the Windows daylight schedule update for free.
Post by Jeff
It would seem to me that doing it manually sort of defeats the entire
idea of getting the time automatically from the satellite - not to speak
of having to crank out the owner's manual (which just tells you to go to
the navigation ownsers manual) just to find where the darn clock
controls are in the navigation menu. In earlier Lexus models, there were
hour and minute buttons right on the dashboard that made changing the
time much easier. Looks like a step backwards rather than forwards.
j***@hotmail.com
2007-11-10 01:59:49 UTC
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Yes, Garmin's GPS systems adjusts for daylight savings time
automatically. There was a free update, like Microsoft's Windows
patch, for all its products. Never had to manually set my Nuvi 350,
picks the time from satellites and adjusts based on your current
location! Great stuff.

Then again, Fujitsu-Ten (Toyota/Lexus OEM) is not an audio/video/nav
company others look up to.
Post by Jeff
It would seem to me that doing it manually sort of defeats the entire
idea of getting the time automatically from the satellite - not to speak
of having to crank out the owner's manual (which just tells you to go to
the navigation ownsers manual) just to find where the darn clock
controls are in the navigation menu. In earlier Lexus models, there were
hour and minute buttons right on the dashboard that made changing the
time much easier. Looks like a step backwards rather than forwards.
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