Lexus LS 460

[s***@yahoo.co.uk]

Lexus has confirmed it will launch its brand-new LS 460 at the Moscow Motor Show on 26 August.So far few of the major details are known about the saloon except that it will have sure-footed dynamic abilities as well as advanced active safety systems further strengthened a result of the addition of permanent all-wheel drive.The new all-wheel drive system will have three different settings delivered by the impressive Torsen Limited Slip Differential.
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[mcbrue]

Oh wow! Dynamic 4 wheel drive !!!! I wonder if they have cured any of
the 5000 small problems yet - like the river of water running down the
drivers front windshield at the side during rain, or the mismatch of
wiper to glass so wipers scrape and skip unless in a downpour, of the
speed of the auto wipers, or the size of the rear view mirrors, or the
lack of memory positions on the passenger seat, orn the drips from the
tunk lid into the trunk in a rain storm, or ... ah why go on! They
never will learn how to make a luxury car.

[GIga]

And you will never cease to amaze me. The whining is incredible -- much
more dramatic than my 5-year old Dachshund (who are known to be whiners, and
are cute, so can be forgiven... unlike ...). I wonder how you know all this
about the LS460 since you don't own one. Or, are you projecting some
imaginary crap that someone told you in a blog somewhere? Oh. I forgot.
YOU drive the (drumroll) ULTRA LUX LS400 (woo hoo!), and therefore are the
world's foremost expert. Of course, everything you touch seems to turn to
crap (coincidence? perhaps...), so I dunno, maybe (just maybe) you're a
whiny complainer who finds fault with everyone and everything (with the
notable exception of yourself). Personally, MY LS600hL is just ducky. No
windshield problems, no rain problems, no drip problems, no auto speed
problems, no problem with the mirror problems... ah why go on! You will
never learn to appreciate great engineering.

GIga

Post by mcbrue
Oh wow! Dynamic 4 wheel drive !!!! I wonder if they have cured any of
the 5000 small problems yet - like the river of water running down the
drivers front windshield at the side during rain, or the mismatch of
wiper to glass so wipers scrape and skip unless in a downpour, of the
speed of the auto wipers, or the size of the rear view mirrors, or the
lack of memory positions on the passenger seat, orn the drips from the
tunk lid into the trunk in a rain storm, or ... ah why go on! They
never will learn how to make a luxury car.

[mcbrue]

Ah hA !! It is Glga !!!!!! So glga just answer the following about the
only one small system, the windshield - is it at the wrong angle so it
glares? is there enough tint at the top to protect your vision as much
as a real car does? is the glass better matched to the wipers so the
wipers do not skip over the windshield making horrible noise and
leaving skp marks until the rain is pouring? do the wipers leave clean
areas on the winshield or do you get a big river of water down the
drivers side or now maybe on the passenger's side? The answer for my
2006 LSUltra430 is the negative option for each of these questions.
For a Mercedes, the answers are all positive. When I test drove a 460
out west I got negative answers.

[St. John Smythe]

Post by mcbrue
Ah hA !! It is Glga !!!!!! So glga just answer the following about the
only one small system, the windshield - is it at the wrong angle so it
glares?

That's just silly; windshields don't glare. Of course, if you're too
short, and the sun is low in the sky, any car's windshield is going to
allow the sun in your eyes, if you don't use the sun visors as intended.

[GIga]

Windshield glare? What are you, 4 ft. tall? Have you ever hear of a sun
visor? I suppose it's Lexus' fault that the sun is in the sky and is
really, really bright (unlike you)? Perhaps the mad Germans will figure out
how to eliminate the sun, but until that happens, I guess we'll all just
have to deal. If your wipers skid, then you probably have worn out or dirty
wipers. I honestly doubt the angle of the windshield has anything to do
with it. One other possibility is that your windshield is really dirty, in
which case perhaps you ought to consider cleaning your car? Or is that too
expensive for you?

Why in the world do you own a Lexus if you're so convinced that it's a piece
of crap? Either you're really stupid, or you get jollies out of writing
nonsense on newsgroups just to see how people will respond. Or, maybe both?
When the ML came out, my wife bought one. Biggest mistake we ever made --
what an absolute piece of crap that car was. Never bought another one (oh!
I learned from my mistake!), and just tried to forget all about the
experience (rather than continuing to spew useless untrue garbage on the
mercedes newsgroup). Please please please go buy a Mercedes, and never
darken Lexus' doorstep again with your presence.

GIga (not glga you illiterate moron)

Post by mcbrue
Ah hA !! It is Glga !!!!!! So glga just answer the following about the
only one small system, the windshield - is it at the wrong angle so it
glares? is there enough tint at the top to protect your vision as much
as a real car does? is the glass better matched to the wipers so the
wipers do not skip over the windshield making horrible noise and
leaving skp marks until the rain is pouring? do the wipers leave clean
areas on the winshield or do you get a big river of water down the
drivers side or now maybe on the passenger's side? The answer for my
2006 LSUltra430 is the negative option for each of these questions.
For a Mercedes, the answers are all positive. When I test drove a 460
out west I got negative answers.

[stuart]

Where did you get your engineering degree?

Post by GIga
And you will never cease to amaze me. The whining is incredible -- much
more dramatic than my 5-year old Dachshund (who are known to be whiners, and
are cute, so can be forgiven... unlike ...). I wonder how you know all this
about the LS460 since you don't own one. Or, are you projecting some
imaginary crap that someone told you in a blog somewhere? Oh. I forgot.
YOU drive the (drumroll) ULTRA LUX LS400 (woo hoo!), and therefore are the
world's foremost expert. Of course, everything you touch seems to turn to
crap (coincidence? perhaps...), so I dunno, maybe (just maybe) you're a
whiny complainer who finds fault with everyone and everything (with the
notable exception of yourself). Personally, MY LS600hL is just ducky. No
windshield problems, no rain problems, no drip problems, no auto speed
problems, no problem with the mirror problems... ah why go on! You will
never learn to appreciate great engineering.
GIga

Post by mcbrue
Oh wow! Dynamic 4 wheel drive !!!! I wonder if they have cured any of
the 5000 small problems yet - like the river of water running down the
drivers front windshield at the side during rain, or the mismatch of
wiper to glass so wipers scrape and skip unless in a downpour, of the
speed of the auto wipers, or the size of the rear view mirrors, or the
lack of memory positions on the passenger seat, orn the drips from the
tunk lid into the trunk in a rain storm, or ... ah why go on! They
never will learn how to make a luxury car.

[GIga]

Columbia University School of Engineering and Applied Science (BSEE, class
of '81)
Boston University (MSCS, class of '83)

Where did you get yours? (Isn't this fun?)

GIga

Post by stuart
Where did you get your engineering degree?

Post by GIga
And you will never cease to amaze me. The whining is incredible -- much
more dramatic than my 5-year old Dachshund (who are known to be whiners,

and

Post by GIga
are cute, so can be forgiven... unlike ...). I wonder how you know all

this

Post by GIga
about the LS460 since you don't own one. Or, are you projecting some
imaginary crap that someone told you in a blog somewhere? Oh. I forgot.
YOU drive the (drumroll) ULTRA LUX LS400 (woo hoo!), and therefore are the
world's foremost expert. Of course, everything you touch seems to turn to
crap (coincidence? perhaps...), so I dunno, maybe (just maybe) you're a
whiny complainer who finds fault with everyone and everything (with the
notable exception of yourself). Personally, MY LS600hL is just ducky.
No
windshield problems, no rain problems, no drip problems, no auto speed
problems, no problem with the mirror problems... ah why go on! You will
never learn to appreciate great engineering.
GIga

Post by mcbrue
Oh wow! Dynamic 4 wheel drive !!!! I wonder if they have cured any of
the 5000 small problems yet - like the river of water running down the
drivers front windshield at the side during rain, or the mismatch of
wiper to glass so wipers scrape and skip unless in a downpour, of the
speed of the auto wipers, or the size of the rear view mirrors, or the
lack of memory positions on the passenger seat, orn the drips from the
tunk lid into the trunk in a rain storm, or ... ah why go on! They
never will learn how to make a luxury car.

[stuart]

I'm impressed... A lot more prestigious than my University of Costa
Rica....

Post by GIga
Columbia University School of Engineering and Applied Science (BSEE, class
of '81)
Boston University (MSCS, class of '83)
Where did you get yours? (Isn't this fun?)
GIga

Post by stuart
Where did you get your engineering degree?

Post by GIga
And you will never cease to amaze me. The whining is incredible -- much
more dramatic than my 5-year old Dachshund (who are known to be whiners,

and

Post by GIga
are cute, so can be forgiven... unlike ...). I wonder how you know all

this

Post by GIga
about the LS460 since you don't own one. Or, are you projecting some
imaginary crap that someone told you in a blog somewhere? Oh. I forgot.
YOU drive the (drumroll) ULTRA LUX LS400 (woo hoo!), and therefore are the
world's foremost expert. Of course, everything you touch seems to turn to
crap (coincidence? perhaps...), so I dunno, maybe (just maybe) you're a
whiny complainer who finds fault with everyone and everything (with the
notable exception of yourself). Personally, MY LS600hL is just ducky.
No
windshield problems, no rain problems, no drip problems, no auto speed
problems, no problem with the mirror problems... ah why go on! You will
never learn to appreciate great engineering.
GIga

Post by mcbrue
Oh wow! Dynamic 4 wheel drive !!!! I wonder if they have cured any of
the 5000 small problems yet - like the river of water running down the
drivers front windshield at the side during rain, or the mismatch of
wiper to glass so wipers scrape and skip unless in a downpour, of the
speed of the auto wipers, or the size of the rear view mirrors, or the
lack of memory positions on the passenger seat, orn the drips from the
tunk lid into the trunk in a rain storm, or ... ah why go on! They
never will learn how to make a luxury car.

[j***@hotmail.com]

You're right, I don't think Lexus is true luxury. It never came close
to BMW or Mercedes, but for many working poor (and buying cars with
Consumer Reports in hand) it's just fine. For example the new 8-speed
clunker transmission shift takes 100 ms, instead of 8 ms in the
efficient DSG (Direkt Schalt Getriebe) using Borg Warner technology.

But I think Toyota did a great marketing job with the Lexus division,
as many owners didn't even realize they are actually driving modified
Camrys (Lexus ES, RX)!

Oh wow! Dynamic 4 wheel drive !!!!  I wonder if they have cured any of
the 5000 small problems yet - like the river of water running down the
drivers front windshield at the side during rain, or the mismatch of
wiper to glass so wipers scrape and skip unless in a downpour, of the
speed of the auto wipers, or the size of the rear view mirrors, or the
lack of memory positions on the passenger seat, orn the drips from the
tunk lid into the trunk in a rain storm, or  ... ah why go on! They
never will learn how to make a luxury car.

[GIga]

And what do YOU drive Johnny boy? You really are a broken record, aren't
you? And your "data" is (as usual) meaningless, inaccurate (at best), and
out of context. Where do you GET this crap from? McBrue? Or do you just
make it up (not that different from getting from McBrewski actually!)?

GIga
<***@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:65b74079-1ab4-4696-bc7f-***@l33g2000pri.googlegroups.com...
You're right, I don't think Lexus is true luxury. It never came close
to BMW or Mercedes, but for many working poor (and buying cars with
Consumer Reports in hand) it's just fine. For example the new 8-speed
clunker transmission shift takes 100 ms, instead of 8 ms in the
efficient DSG (Direkt Schalt Getriebe) using Borg Warner technology.

But I think Toyota did a great marketing job with the Lexus division,
as many owners didn't even realize they are actually driving modified
Camrys (Lexus ES, RX)!

Oh wow! Dynamic 4 wheel drive !!!! I wonder if they have cured any of
the 5000 small problems yet - like the river of water running down the
drivers front windshield at the side during rain, or the mismatch of
wiper to glass so wipers scrape and skip unless in a downpour, of the
speed of the auto wipers, or the size of the rear view mirrors, or the
lack of memory positions on the passenger seat, orn the drips from the
tunk lid into the trunk in a rain storm, or ... ah why go on! They
never will learn how to make a luxury car.