Tyre wear on IS200

[Petert]

Hi
I've just had a £197 shock by having to have two new front tyres. As
the car has barely 10000 miles on the clock couldn't believe it. Is
this normal for a Lexus? Or am I a 66 yr old boy racer burning rubber
at every opportunity? I've had the car from new and it has suffered
the same conditions of storage, use etc as all my previous Jap. cars
which all managed 30000 miles plus between tyre changes.
Man at the Lexus garage who did the job as part of MOT/annual service
said I was lucky "RXs only do 8000 per new tyres". Phew, what a let
off!!!!!
peter

[Ray O]

Post by Petert
Hi
I've just had a £197 shock by having to have two new front tyres. As
the car has barely 10000 miles on the clock couldn't believe it. Is
this normal for a Lexus? Or am I a 66 yr old boy racer burning rubber
at every opportunity? I've had the car from new and it has suffered
the same conditions of storage, use etc as all my previous Jap. cars
which all managed 30000 miles plus between tyre changes.
Man at the Lexus garage who did the job as part of MOT/annual service
said I was lucky "RXs only do 8000 per new tyres". Phew, what a let
off!!!!!
peter

As you have discovered, original equipment tyres tend to have a fairly short
tread life due to soft rubber compounds formulated with traction rather than
wear in mind. This is especially true of cars equipped with low profile
sporty tyres.

[mcbrue]

So what is that 197 in real dollars? ;-)

Oh - if you change tyres to a different grade of tire, you probably
void the warranty and the stealership will tell you you can't expect
to get the same performance or comfort level from the car.

[OldMan]

Not so here

Post by mcbrue
So what is that 197 in real dollars? ;-)
Oh - if you change tyres to a different grade of tire, you probably
void the warranty and the stealership will tell you you can't expect
to get the same performance or comfort level from the car.

[Jerohm]

10K is pretty LOW... on the other hand, less than 20K seems to be becoming
more common... unexceptable, but more common. I don't hot rod around, but I
certainly remember the days of 60K/set ... no more

Post by Petert
Hi
I've just had a £197 shock by having to have two new front tyres. As
the car has barely 10000 miles on the clock couldn't believe it. Is
this normal for a Lexus? Or am I a 66 yr old boy racer burning rubber
at every opportunity? I've had the car from new and it has suffered
the same conditions of storage, use etc as all my previous Jap. cars
which all managed 30000 miles plus between tyre changes.
Man at the Lexus garage who did the job as part of MOT/annual service
said I was lucky "RXs only do 8000 per new tyres". Phew, what a let
off!!!!!
peter

[mcbrue]

The problem is that the drug dealers, pimps, and other criminals
popularized the thin tire on big rims. Those tires have inadequate
amounts of material to stand up for more than 10 or 20,000 miles on
modern cars used in normal driving. So the incredibly rotten
dealerships immediately began pressing the car companies to put these
useless tires on the cars as the stealerships make a dollar or two per
tire sold. And they are not in business to provide anything except
livings for themselves. So the consumers again get it in the shorts!
Complain to the dealers - they are the ones who pushed this on us.

[J Golden]

Why doesn't Lexus do what Infiniti did back in the late 90's. When I
purchaed my G20T, it came with "performance tires and rims suitable
for summer driving on smooth surfaces". However, All Season tires were
a "no cost option". I opted for the latter.

Post by mcbrue
The problem is that the drug dealers, pimps, and other criminals
popularized the thin tire on big rims. Those tires have inadequate
amounts of material to stand up for more than 10 or 20,000 miles on
modern cars used in normal driving. So the incredibly rotten
dealerships immediately began pressing the car companies to put these
useless tires on the cars as the stealerships make a dollar or two per
tire sold. And they are not in business to provide anything except
livings for themselves. So the consumers again get it in the shorts!
Complain to the dealers - they are the ones who pushed this on us.

[DaveW]

Post by J Golden
Why doesn't Lexus do what Infiniti did back in the late 90's. When I
purchaed my G20T, it came with "performance tires and rims suitable
for summer driving on smooth surfaces". However, All Season tires were
a "no cost option". I opted for the latter.

Lexus did the same thing with the IS300, at least the first model year
(2001) when I bought mine. You could opt for either the 16" wheels
with all-season tires or the 17" with performance tires. Like nearly
everybody else, I took the 17s, and it was a mistake. I went through
four sets in 55,000 miles, and while the car handled great on dry
roads, it was atrocious in the snow.

[j***@hotmail.com]

Well, it's amazing the kind of cheap parts you find in a Lexus. Some
owners drive around in the Lexus ES without realizing it's just a
Toyota Camry with different sheet metals. But most people can't tell
an alternator from a compressor if you show them under the hood.

Post by mcbrue
The problem is that the drug dealers, pimps, and other criminals
popularized the thin tire on big rims. Those tires have inadequate
amounts of material to stand up for more than 10 or 20,000 miles on
modern cars used in normal driving. So the incredibly rotten
dealerships immediately began pressing the car companies to put these
useless tires on the cars as the stealerships make a dollar or two per
tire sold. And they are not in business to provide anything except
livings for themselves. So the consumers again get it in the shorts!
Complain to the dealers - they are the ones who pushed this on us.

[Ray O]

<***@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:09dc9c0e-3bc0-408b-825e-***@z28g2000prd.googlegroups.com...
Well, it's amazing the kind of cheap parts you find in a Lexus. Some
owners drive around in the Lexus ES without realizing it's just a
Toyota Camry with different sheet metals. But most people can't tell
an alternator from a compressor if you show them under the hood.


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... or tell the difference between a tire's tread and thread...

[Jay Somerset]

On Thu, 1 Jan 2009 12:09:28 -0600, "Ray O"

Post by j***@hotmail.com
Well, it's amazing the kind of cheap parts you find in a Lexus. Some
owners drive around in the Lexus ES without realizing it's just a
Toyota Camry with different sheet metals. But most people can't tell
an alternator from a compressor if you show them under the hood.
***************
... or tell the difference between a tire's tread and thread...

Nice! The first good "gotcha" of 2009. :-)

[j***@hotmail.com]

Well, Toyota has gotten cheap on these tires. Michelins used be more
common, and then you start to see the cheap 20K mile Bridgestones
showing up on more and more of them as the pressure to cut costs
increased. I've heard of 8K mile Yokohamas on Hondas (S2000). But 10K
is still a joke. You do have to check the thread wear ratings (among
things like performance, thread wear, traction rating, etc) before
purchase. Check out the Michelin and Pirelli offerings.

Post by Petert
Hi
I've just had a £197 shock by having to have two new front tyres. As
the car has barely 10000 miles on the clock couldn't believe it. Is
this normal for a Lexus? Or am I a 66 yr old boy racer burning rubber
at every opportunity? I've had the car from new and it has suffered
the same conditions of storage, use  etc as all my previous Jap. cars
which all managed 30000 miles plus between tyre changes.
Man at the Lexus garage who did the job as part of MOT/annual service
said I was lucky "RXs only do 8000 per new tyres". Phew, what a let
off!!!!!
peter