premature tire wear

[k***@gmail.com]

i have a 2006 RX400h
it came with Goodyear Eagle Tires
they wore out at 17,000 miles

i contacted the dealer and the Lexus
Service Center expressing this concern, but the explaination basically
was that "tires wear out".

the car had an alignment done at 15,000 miles.

the dealer explained that Goodyear Eagles dont last more than 15-25K
miles
and the hybrid weight contributes to the tire wear.

my next car probably not be a Lexus, due to the fact that Lexus chose
to put racing tires on a family vehicle that resulted in premature
tire wear.

regards

chris hu
san jose, calif

[old man]

There are differnt types of Eagle tyres, tyre wear also depends on the
driver
Sounds to me like maybe you shouldnt buy a car

Post by k***@gmail.com
i have a 2006 RX400h
it came with Goodyear Eagle Tires
they wore out at 17,000 miles
i contacted the dealer and the Lexus
Service Center expressing this concern, but the explaination basically
was that "tires wear out".
the car had an alignment done at 15,000 miles.
the dealer explained that Goodyear Eagles dont last more than 15-25K
miles
and the hybrid weight contributes to the tire wear.
my next car probably not be a Lexus, due to the fact that Lexus chose
to put racing tires on a family vehicle that resulted in premature
tire wear.
regards
chris hu
san jose, calif

[Larry Rogers]

RX400h .... family vehicle..... Yea, right!

If you are not happy with the tire wear with that compound, try a harder
tire, either Goodyear or another brand. Then you get to bitch about the
harsh ride and the road noise. Or get some of them big rims, you know, them
28 inch shinny ones with the spinners and put them really thin rubbers on
'um. That would make the family real proud.

Or you could just go buy a Ford. I got some Firestones I'll sell ya cheap.

Larry
In the back yard, under the oak.

[Graybeard]

Speaking of tires, I just traded my 2000 Avalon XLS for a 2007 Lexus ES 350.
The Avalon had Michelin tires that road and lasted beautifully. The new
Lexus came with 17-inch Bridgestones.
What difference should I expect from these cheaper tires?

Graybeard

Post by Larry Rogers
RX400h .... family vehicle..... Yea, right!
If you are not happy with the tire wear with that compound, try a harder
tire, either Goodyear or another brand. Then you get to bitch about the
harsh ride and the road noise. Or get some of them big rims, you know,
them 28 inch shinny ones with the spinners and put them really thin
rubbers on 'um. That would make the family real proud.
Or you could just go buy a Ford. I got some Firestones I'll sell ya cheap.
Larry
In the back yard, under the oak.

[Larry]

I am not the one to ask about Bridgestone tires. Long ago motorcycle
experience. I found Bridgestones to be crap. I always ran Pirelli's on the
two-wheeler. Whole different mindset when you only have two to depend on.
Currently on the RX300, I'm running Goodrich. Guess that makes me a
Neanderthal.

Larry
In the back yard, under the oak.

[j***@hotmail.com]

Absolutely. The Pirellis and Michelins are considered premium tires.
Bridgestones/Firestones are at the bottom.

Post by Larry
I am not the one to ask about Bridgestone tires. Long ago motorcycle
experience. I found Bridgestones to be crap. I always ran Pirelli's on the
two-wheeler. Whole different mindset when you only have two to depend on.
Currently on the RX300, I'm running Goodrich. Guess that makes me a
Neanderthal.
Larry
In the back yard, under the oak.

[Ray O]

Post by Graybeard
Speaking of tires, I just traded my 2000 Avalon XLS for a 2007 Lexus ES
350. The Avalon had Michelin tires that road and lasted beautifully. The
new Lexus came with 17-inch Bridgestones.
What difference should I expect from these cheaper tires?
Graybeard

The original tires will probably only last around 25,000 miles or so.

[j***@hotmail.com]

Bridgestones on Lexus? I would expect Pirelli or Michelins given the
profit margins on the Lexus line. Looks like Toyota cost cutting is in
full gear.

IMO Bridgestone, which also owns Firestone and makes some Brdigestone
tires in the US in Firestone plants, are not good tires at all.
Premature wear is a common complaint Googling around. And Firestones
were involved in many roll-over accidents. Sure, Ford was partly
responsible but Firestones were the ones recalled.

Go to a tire store and look at the much thinner side walls. Don't
carry loved ones, carry in-laws. ;-)

Post by Graybeard
Speaking of tires, I just traded my 2000 Avalon XLS for a 2007 Lexus ES 350.
The Avalon had Michelin tires that road and lasted beautifully. The new
Lexus came with 17-inch Bridgestones.
What difference should I expect from these cheaper tires?
Graybeard

[j***@hotmail.com]

BTW, the 2007 ES350 is being investigated by the Feds for sudden
acceleration. So Bridgestones may be the lesser concerns.

"Federal regulators have stepped up an investigation into 98,454 Lexus
ES 350 sedans after amassing 40 reports of unintended acceleration,
including eight crashes and 12 injuries, along with cases in which
drivers said their cars stopped only after an accident."

Full article at:
http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070815/BUSINESS01/708150373

Post by Graybeard
Speaking of tires, I just traded my 2000 Avalon XLS for a 2007 Lexus ES 350.
The Avalon had Michelin tires that road and lasted beautifully. The new
Lexus came with 17-inch Bridgestones.
What difference should I expect from these cheaper tires?

[Steve Larson]

I saw a news piece on this recently, they attributed it to a slipped floor
mat jamming the pedal. Not sure if that was the final analysis. The only
issue I've had with my 02 es300 is with the computer controlled
engine/tranny NOT giving me power when I needed it, but never the other way
around.

Post by j***@hotmail.com
BTW, the 2007 ES350 is being investigated by the Feds for sudden
acceleration. So Bridgestones may be the lesser concerns.
"Federal regulators have stepped up an investigation into 98,454 Lexus
ES 350 sedans after amassing 40 reports of unintended acceleration,
including eight crashes and 12 injuries, along with cases in which
drivers said their cars stopped only after an accident."
http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070815/BUSINESS01/708150373

Post by Graybeard
Speaking of tires, I just traded my 2000 Avalon XLS for a 2007 Lexus ES 350.
The Avalon had Michelin tires that road and lasted beautifully. The new
Lexus came with 17-inch Bridgestones.
What difference should I expect from these cheaper tires?

[j***@hotmail.com]

Yeah, people have complained these cars don't move. But if the mat
slipped under the pedal, wouldn't the car slow down? I think people
would notice if the mat got on top of the pedal? No?

Post by Steve Larson
I saw a news piece on this recently, they attributed it to a slipped floor
mat jamming the pedal. Not sure if that was the final analysis. The only
issue I've had with my 02 es300 is with the computer controlled
engine/tranny NOT giving me power when I needed it, but never the other way
around.

[Steve Larson]

With the problems I've had with my tranny and accelerator making up their
own mind when they should work, rather than trusting me, the driver, I would
LOVE to see Lexus/Toyota nailed for an actual problem. I hate it when big
companies make decisions and then turn a deaf ear, because they have some
other hidden agenda that isn't consumer-friendly. Will be interesting to
see if the investigation goes anywhere significant.

Post by j***@hotmail.com
Yeah, people have complained these cars don't move. But if the mat
slipped under the pedal, wouldn't the car slow down? I think people
would notice if the mat got on top of the pedal? No?

Post by Steve Larson
I saw a news piece on this recently, they attributed it to a slipped floor
mat jamming the pedal. Not sure if that was the final analysis. The only
issue I've had with my 02 es300 is with the computer controlled
engine/tranny NOT giving me power when I needed it, but never the other way
around.

["" <Curtis Newton>]

Post by k***@gmail.com
i have a 2006 RX400h
it came with Goodyear Eagle Tires
they wore out at 17,000 miles
i contacted the dealer and the Lexus
Service Center expressing this concern, but the explaination basically
was that "tires wear out".
the car had an alignment done at 15,000 miles.
the dealer explained that Goodyear Eagles dont last more than 15-25K
miles and the hybrid weight contributes to the tire wear.
my next car probably not be a Lexus, due to the fact that Lexus chose
to put racing tires on a family vehicle that resulted in premature
tire wear.

In my experience, neither the OEM Goodyear or Michelin's do well on
treadlife.

Check out the Bridgestone H/L Alenza. It is a 60,000 mile rated tire
that comes in the 235/55/18 size that fits your RX.

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Bridgestone&tireModel=Dueler+H%2FL+Alenza&vehicleSearch=true&partnum=355VR8HLALNZ&fromCompare1=yes&place=6&speed_rating=S&speed_rating=T&speed_rating=U&speed_rating=H&speed_rating=V&speed_rating=Z&speed_rating=W&speed_rating=Y&minSpeedRating=S
or
http://tinyurl.com/yq3ncl

[Steve Larson]

I just put Michelin Primacy tires on my 02 es300. Do some online research
into the treadlife and mileage warranty on different tires, and make the
selection that works best for you. A fast-wearing tire is usually more
sticky on the road, so at least it was a safe 17000 miles for you.

Post by k***@gmail.com
i have a 2006 RX400h
it came with Goodyear Eagle Tires
they wore out at 17,000 miles
i contacted the dealer and the Lexus
Service Center expressing this concern, but the explaination basically
was that "tires wear out".
the car had an alignment done at 15,000 miles.
the dealer explained that Goodyear Eagles dont last more than 15-25K
miles
and the hybrid weight contributes to the tire wear.
my next car probably not be a Lexus, due to the fact that Lexus chose
to put racing tires on a family vehicle that resulted in premature
tire wear.
regards
chris hu
san jose, calif