"Lexus can run with anything in class"

[Mike]

Lexus can run with anything in class
at http://www.washtimes.com/autoweekend/20070111-081353-2326r.htm

[nopcbs]

Right, it just can't stop with anything else in its class. Recent report on
comparable Luxo-barges in one of the car books showed new LS to have wholly
inadequate braking performance. I mean it was loooooooong stopping
distances. No excuse for this.

- nopcbs

Post by Mike
Lexus can run with anything in class
at http://www.washtimes.com/autoweekend/20070111-081353-2326r.htm

[Jeff]

My experience too with the 07 GS 350. My older GS350 stopped much better.

Jeff

Post by nopcbs
Right, it just can't stop with anything else in its class. Recent report
on comparable Luxo-barges in one of the car books showed new LS to have
wholly inadequate braking performance. I mean it was loooooooong stopping
distances. No excuse for this.
- nopcbs

Post by Mike
Lexus can run with anything in class
at http://www.washtimes.com/autoweekend/20070111-081353-2326r.htm

[CFL]

My IS will stop shorter and firmer than my BMW. OF course the brake
pads make a lot of dust.
Ollie

Post by Jeff
My experience too with the 07 GS 350. My older GS350 stopped much better.
Jeff

Post by nopcbs
Right, it just can't stop with anything else in its class. Recent report
on comparable Luxo-barges in one of the car books showed new LS to have
wholly inadequate braking performance. I mean it was loooooooong stopping
distances. No excuse for this.
- nopcbs

Post by Mike
Lexus can run with anything in class
at http://www.washtimes.com/autoweekend/20070111-081353-2326r.htm

[mcbrue]

EEEEK !!!! You mean my 06 LS430 wont stop as quick as a Mercedes E
class or BMW 530 or Audi A6?????? I thought I had checked the stopping
distances and found them to be comparable with a slight edge to the
Lexus. DRAT !!!! Now the dratted thing won't start up and get out of
the way of the speeding dump truck and if it does get moving, it will
not stop before it runs into the dratted dump truck ! Humph! Anyone
know of a way to alter the radar systems to detect dump trucks?

[Max]

Post by mcbrue
EEEEK !!!! You mean my 06 LS430 wont stop as quick as a Mercedes E
class or BMW 530 or Audi A6?????? I thought I had checked the stopping
distances and found them to be comparable with a slight edge to the
Lexus. DRAT !!!! Now the dratted thing won't start up and get out of
the way of the speeding dump truck and if it does get moving, it will
not stop before it runs into the dratted dump truck ! Humph! Anyone
know of a way to alter the radar systems to detect dump trucks?

my neighborhood doesn't have a proliferation of rampaging dump trucks.

[Elmo P. Shagnasty]

Post by mcbrue
EEEEK !!!! You mean my 06 LS430 wont stop as quick as a Mercedes E
class or BMW 530 or Audi A6??????

Or a Honda Civic, for that matter.

[GIga]

Wow. An idiot and a moron having a conversation. How entertaining!

<grin>

Post by Elmo P. Shagnasty

Post by mcbrue
EEEEK !!!! You mean my 06 LS430 wont stop as quick as a Mercedes E
class or BMW 530 or Audi A6??????

Or a Honda Civic, for that matter.

[Elmo P. Shagnasty]

Post by GIga

Post by Elmo P. Shagnasty

Post by mcbrue
EEEEK !!!! You mean my 06 LS430 wont stop as quick as a Mercedes E
class or BMW 530 or Audi A6??????

Or a Honda Civic, for that matter.

Wow. An idiot and a moron having a conversation. How entertaining!
<grin>

(top posting fixed)

wow. A $75,000 car with worse braking performance than a $16,000 car.
How entertaining!

[Max]

On Wed, 24 Jan 2007 22:55:58 -0500, "Elmo P. Shagnasty"

Post by Elmo P. Shagnasty

Post by GIga

Post by Elmo P. Shagnasty

Post by mcbrue
EEEEK !!!! You mean my 06 LS430 wont stop as quick as a Mercedes E
class or BMW 530 or Audi A6??????

Or a Honda Civic, for that matter.

Wow. An idiot and a moron having a conversation. How entertaining!
<grin>

(top posting fixed)
wow. A $75,000 car with worse braking performance than a $16,000 car.
How entertaining!

well, I can buy a $10,000 sport bike than can blow away a Ferrari.

What's your point?

[Elmo P. Shagnasty]

Post by Max

Post by Elmo P. Shagnasty
wow. A $75,000 car with worse braking performance than a $16,000 car.
How entertaining!

well, I can buy a $10,000 sport bike than can blow away a Ferrari.
What's your point?

You're comparing sport bikes to cars. That's apples to oranges. Why
don't you compare sport bikes to sport bikes?

I'm comparing a very expensive car to a less expensive car.

One would think the more expensive car could do better.

What would you say if you found a sport bike that seemed to be the same
as another, yet had significantly inferior performance?

[Max]

On Sat, 27 Jan 2007 15:30:51 -0500, "Elmo P. Shagnasty"

Post by Elmo P. Shagnasty

Post by Max

Post by Elmo P. Shagnasty
wow. A $75,000 car with worse braking performance than a $16,000 car.
How entertaining!

well, I can buy a $10,000 sport bike than can blow away a Ferrari.
What's your point?

You're comparing sport bikes to cars. That's apples to oranges. Why
don't you compare sport bikes to sport bikes?
I'm comparing a very expensive car to a less expensive car.
One would think the more expensive car could do better.
What would you say if you found a sport bike that seemed to be the same
as another, yet had significantly inferior performance?

I'd check and see what that type of sport bike is designed to do and
then compare it to like models.

For example, I wouldn't compare a Ducati Monster to a Suzi Hayabusa,
they're both considered sport bikes (albeit the Monster is more
defined as a naked sport bike), since they're not like bikes. A more
fair comparison would be a ZX10 to a Hayabusa.

Or, just save $25k over the LS and buy a Corvette.

With a Lexus, you're paying for the reliability, build quality and
name. Performance hasn't really been a
big ticket item for the Lexus engineers unfortunately.

[Elmo P. Shagnasty]

Post by Max
With a Lexus, you're paying for the reliability, build quality and
name. Performance hasn't really been a
big ticket item for the Lexus engineers unfortunately.

Well, braking performance isn't speed performance. It's safety.

And they should be ashamed that a $16K car is safer than a $75K car.

[David Z]

Post by Elmo P. Shagnasty

Post by Max

Post by Elmo P. Shagnasty
wow. A $75,000 car with worse braking performance than a $16,000 car.
How entertaining!

well, I can buy a $10,000 sport bike than can blow away a Ferrari.
What's your point?

You're comparing sport bikes to cars. That's apples to oranges. Why
don't you compare sport bikes to sport bikes?
I'm comparing a very expensive car to a less expensive car.
One would think the more expensive car could do better.
What would you say if you found a sport bike that seemed to be the same
as another, yet had significantly inferior performance?

With respect to braking distance, comparing a Honda Civic to a Lexus LS
is also an apples to oranges comparison due to the difference in the
weight of each car. I suspect that a Civic is about half the weight of
an LS.

For a true apples to apples comparison, you would have to compare the LS
to a car in its class.