Lexus owners - drive SD only with care and a full tank

[mcbrue]

Started into SD. Had a full tank of premium from Mn - pure gas. Got to
Mitchell and pulled off to see the unbelievable Corn Palace. It was
unbelievable. Ate buffalo burger and drank Sasaparilla. Tried to fill
up the car with gas. No gas except gasahol. Recalled the boys in the
shop saying not to burn that stuff. Recalled some research reoprts
pointing out that Alchol can disolve rubber fittings and roughen some
of the engine parts like cylinders. These tidbits are in research
reports being considered in Mn which is contemplating forcing use of
E20 by 2012. Looked up the acceptable gas policy in Volume 72, page
245712 of the car direction manuals. They sounded sort of not too
encouraging, talking about damage from engine nocking. Thought about
the likely $15,000 repair bills. So I tried calling AAA and the local
police. None could direct me to pure gas. Had enough to go further
into the state, but stopped at the next few fuel vendors. Finaly found
some premium pure gas. This is a scarce commodity in SD, though, so
watch out! In fact, I don't recall seeing many Lexus cars in SD, and
no dealers. Sure wish the little beady eyed designers had put full
size fuel tanks in their cars! Oh well - the luxury Dodge Neon has a
small gas tank also. Black hills were nice. And the Bad Lands were
BAD and full of deer and prarie dogs and stuff. SD is pretty in a
prarie sort of way.

[W. Wells]

Why were you in a car?

Post by mcbrue
Started into SD. Had a full tank of premium from Mn - pure gas. Got to
Mitchell and pulled off to see the unbelievable Corn Palace. It was
unbelievable. Ate buffalo burger and drank Sasaparilla. Tried to fill
up the car with gas. No gas except gasahol. Recalled the boys in the
shop saying not to burn that stuff. Recalled some research reoprts
pointing out that Alchol can disolve rubber fittings and roughen some
of the engine parts like cylinders. These tidbits are in research
reports being considered in Mn which is contemplating forcing use of
E20 by 2012. Looked up the acceptable gas policy in Volume 72, page
245712 of the car direction manuals. They sounded sort of not too
encouraging, talking about damage from engine nocking. Thought about
the likely $15,000 repair bills. So I tried calling AAA and the local
police. None could direct me to pure gas. Had enough to go further
into the state, but stopped at the next few fuel vendors. Finaly found
some premium pure gas. This is a scarce commodity in SD, though, so
watch out! In fact, I don't recall seeing many Lexus cars in SD, and
no dealers. Sure wish the little beady eyed designers had put full
size fuel tanks in their cars! Oh well - the luxury Dodge Neon has a
small gas tank also. Black hills were nice. And the Bad Lands were
BAD and full of deer and prarie dogs and stuff. SD is pretty in a
prarie sort of way.

[GIga]

Wow. That's one of the funniest posts I've seen in a long while. Well done
W!

GIga

Post by W. Wells
Why were you in a car?

<snipped out the crap that asshole wrote>

[mcbrue]

W Wells - I was not in a car, I was in a Lexus!

Ray O - I did indeed read the text book drivers manual regarding the
use of fuels in the car. It has a lot of warnings with the gasahol
statement. Those warnings, and the verbal warnings from the
mechanincs, combine to leave the definate opinon that there may well
be something to the research reports cited in the literature about
gasahol that may be inadvisable for long term health of the engine.
There are just too many weasel words associated with the 10%ETOH use
permit in the car's manual.

[Ray O]

Post by mcbrue
W Wells - I was not in a car, I was in a Lexus!
Ray O - I did indeed read the text book drivers manual regarding the
use of fuels in the car. It has a lot of warnings with the gasahol
statement. Those warnings, and the verbal warnings from the
mechanincs, combine to leave the definate opinon that there may well
be something to the research reports cited in the literature about
gasahol that may be inadvisable for long term health of the engine.
There are just too many weasel words associated with the 10%ETOH use
permit in the car's manual.

I have never run into any vehicles with problems related to the use of up to
10% ethanol in my dealings with around 100 dealers in 6 states, and I have
been using it since it was introduced without any problems.

My 2001 Owner's manual states: "Lexus allows the use of oxygenate blended
gasoline where the oxygenate content is up to 10% ethanol or 15%5 MBTE. if
you use gasohol in your Lexus, be sure that it has an octane rating no lower
than 87.

Lexus does not recommend the use of gasoline containing methanol."

That seems pretty weasel-word-free to me.

[GIga]

Yes, but to a weasel, all words appear weasel-ly.

GIga

Post by Ray O

Post by mcbrue
W Wells - I was not in a car, I was in a Lexus!
Ray O - I did indeed read the text book drivers manual regarding the
use of fuels in the car. It has a lot of warnings with the gasahol
statement. Those warnings, and the verbal warnings from the
mechanincs, combine to leave the definate opinon that there may well
be something to the research reports cited in the literature about
gasahol that may be inadvisable for long term health of the engine.
There are just too many weasel words associated with the 10%ETOH use
permit in the car's manual.

I have never run into any vehicles with problems related to the use of up
to 10% ethanol in my dealings with around 100 dealers in 6 states, and I
have been using it since it was introduced without any problems.
My 2001 Owner's manual states: "Lexus allows the use of oxygenate blended
gasoline where the oxygenate content is up to 10% ethanol or 15%5 MBTE.
if you use gasohol in your Lexus, be sure that it has an octane rating no
lower than 87.
Lexus does not recommend the use of gasoline containing methanol."
That seems pretty weasel-word-free to me.
--
Ray O
(correct punctuation to reply)

[Ray O]

Post by mcbrue
Started into SD. Had a full tank of premium from Mn - pure gas. Got to
Mitchell and pulled off to see the unbelievable Corn Palace. It was
unbelievable. Ate buffalo burger and drank Sasaparilla. Tried to fill
up the car with gas. No gas except gasahol. Recalled the boys in the
shop saying not to burn that stuff. Recalled some research reoprts
pointing out that Alchol can disolve rubber fittings and roughen some
of the engine parts like cylinders. These tidbits are in research
reports being considered in Mn which is contemplating forcing use of
E20 by 2012. Looked up the acceptable gas policy in Volume 72, page
245712 of the car direction manuals. They sounded sort of not too
encouraging, talking about damage from engine nocking. Thought about
the likely $15,000 repair bills. So I tried calling AAA and the local
police. None could direct me to pure gas. Had enough to go further
into the state, but stopped at the next few fuel vendors. Finaly found
some premium pure gas. This is a scarce commodity in SD, though, so
watch out! In fact, I don't recall seeing many Lexus cars in SD, and
no dealers. Sure wish the little beady eyed designers had put full
size fuel tanks in their cars! Oh well - the luxury Dodge Neon has a
small gas tank also. Black hills were nice. And the Bad Lands were
BAD and full of deer and prarie dogs and stuff. SD is pretty in a
prarie sort of way.

Re-read your owner's manual. You can use up to 10% alcohol mixture without
harming your car.

[zonie]

We have had blended fuel in Az. for about 20 years. And I will say that the
stuff does not give the best mileage. But have never heard of any damage to
a late model vehicle. My current Toyota is 8 years old and runs perfect. I
wouldnt believe any your mechanic says. Scott