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[Lexus Lover]

I have an open ended question for the group.

My Lexus that was hit this past Sunday night while parked. She is a
1999 LS 400 w/ 106,000, perfect condition, inside and out.

As you can see the 1970 Monte Carlo (tank) that hit it pushed it
against the curb very hard.

The axle (suspension) on the passenger side was bend severly also.

What mechanical issues should I look for as the repairs are being
performed?

As a note Pohanka Collission (Chantilly office) is handling the
repairs... Any comments on them - good bad.

Supposedly they are goin to use OE parts.

My concern is Diminshed Value of the car? This was owned by my
father-in-law who took it in for EVERY service that the manual
recommended - with the Technician stamping the book. He bought the
2008 LS 460, and sold me this one...

This model year does use a Unibody frame? What should I look for, ask
for in terms of Certified Frame Technician, frame report, etc?

So I naturally have babbied this car - my best ever.... I usually
never park her on the street, but I had run an errand and it being
Sunday evening, was playing with my 3 year old.

I appreciate everyone reaeding this long post, I am just trying to
make sure I don't miss anything as I want to drive her for at least 5
more years..

But I also want to make sure that if I take possession of the car from
the collission center what I need to watch out for, mechanically and
body - and frame wise...

Thank you, Darren

[Ray O]

Post by Lexus Lover
I have an open ended question for the group.
My Lexus that was hit this past Sunday night while parked. She is a
1999 LS 400 w/ 106,000, perfect condition, inside and out.
As you can see the 1970 Monte Carlo (tank) that hit it pushed it
against the curb very hard.
The axle (suspension) on the passenger side was bend severly also.
What mechanical issues should I look for as the repairs are being
performed?

Have the vehicle put on an frame alignment machine to check frame alignment.

Post by Lexus Lover
As a note Pohanka Collission (Chantilly office) is handling the
repairs... Any comments on them - good bad.
Supposedly they are goin to use OE parts.
My concern is Diminshed Value of the car? This was owned by my
father-in-law who took it in for EVERY service that the manual
recommended - with the Technician stamping the book. He bought the
2008 LS 460, and sold me this one...
This model year does use a Unibody frame? What should I look for, ask
for in terms of Certified Frame Technician, frame report, etc?

Yes, all Lexus passenger cars use a unibody construction. I doubt if there
is anything you would be able to spot that is correct or not, so that is why
I recommended that the vehicle be put on a frame machine to have its
alignment checked.

Post by Lexus Lover
So I naturally have babbied this car - my best ever.... I usually
never park her on the street, but I had run an errand and it being
Sunday evening, was playing with my 3 year old.
I appreciate everyone reaeding this long post, I am just trying to
make sure I don't miss anything as I want to drive her for at least 5
more years..
But I also want to make sure that if I take possession of the car from
the collission center what I need to watch out for, mechanically and
body - and frame wise...
Thank you, Darren

Take it to a body shop that is recommended by your local Lexus dealer.

[Lexus Lover]

Ray,

Thanks for the follow-up. I am using Pohanka Lexus collission center.
So that should not be a problem. I am assuming it will be put on a
frame machine.

What I am wondering is what I should look for in terms of
documentation from the tem on the frame inspection (subsequent frame
reapairs, etc.), also is their a ceritifaction I should look for from
a frame tech.? etc. د؈JFIF


Oh and what concerns should I have with my lexus like window leaks,
doors not closing properly, body parts not aligned, etc???

Thanks, Darren


On Thu, 26 Jul 2007 23:11:57 -0500, "Ray O"

Post by Ray O

Post by Lexus Lover
I have an open ended question for the group.
My Lexus that was hit this past Sunday night while parked. She is a
1999 LS 400 w/ 106,000, perfect condition, inside and out.
As you can see the 1970 Monte Carlo (tank) that hit it pushed it
against the curb very hard.
The axle (suspension) on the passenger side was bend severly also.
What mechanical issues should I look for as the repairs are being
performed?

Have the vehicle put on an frame alignment machine to check frame alignment.

Post by Lexus Lover
As a note Pohanka Collission (Chantilly office) is handling the
repairs... Any comments on them - good bad.
Supposedly they are goin to use OE parts.
My concern is Diminshed Value of the car? This was owned by my
father-in-law who took it in for EVERY service that the manual
recommended - with the Technician stamping the book. He bought the
2008 LS 460, and sold me this one...
This model year does use a Unibody frame? What should I look for, ask
for in terms of Certified Frame Technician, frame report, etc?

Yes, all Lexus passenger cars use a unibody construction. I doubt if there
is anything you would be able to spot that is correct or not, so that is why
I recommended that the vehicle be put on a frame machine to have its
alignment checked.

Post by Lexus Lover
So I naturally have babbied this car - my best ever.... I usually
never park her on the street, but I had run an errand and it being
Sunday evening, was playing with my 3 year old.
I appreciate everyone reaeding this long post, I am just trying to
make sure I don't miss anything as I want to drive her for at least 5
more years..
But I also want to make sure that if I take possession of the car from
the collission center what I need to watch out for, mechanically and
body - and frame wise...
Thank you, Darren

Take it to a body shop that is recommended by your local Lexus dealer.

[Ray O]

Post by Lexus Lover
Ray,
Thanks for the follow-up. I am using Pohanka Lexus collission center.
So that should not be a problem. I am assuming it will be put on a
frame machine.
What I am wondering is what I should look for in terms of
documentation from the tem on the frame inspection (subsequent frame
reapairs, etc.), also is their a ceritifaction I should look for from
a frame tech.? etc. د؈ JFIF
Oh and what concerns should I have with my lexus like window leaks,
doors not closing properly, body parts not aligned, etc???
Thanks, Darren

Darren,

Most likely, the only documentation you would get from the frame inspection
and any corrections made to the frame would be something to the effect of
"frame out of alignment - corrected." The shop may give some measurements
before and after the measurement and corrections, if any, are made.

If the car is put on a frame machine and the frame is straight, you should
not have any frame-related problems like door and body part alignment,
leaks, etc.

The thing that is most obvious after most body repairs is mis-matched paint.
Hopefully, if paintwork is involved, the shop will scan the paint and use a
computer to match the paint.

[Lexus Lover]

Thanks for the follow-up Ray.

Hopefully the collision center; which is a division of the dealership
where this car was purchased in 1999 can match the paint.

The other issue that has come up is they are replacing the control arm
of the passenger side rear area where it was pushed into the curb. But
I could visibly see that the CV joint was bent. And they had not
indicated it would be fixed, until I insisted it be replaced.

Do you have or know where I can get a picture that breaks out the
parts in the rear axle area, so as to be certain that I identify all
of the possible parts that could be damaged because of this?

Darren

On Sun, 29 Jul 2007 23:21:47 -0500, "Ray O"

Post by Ray O

Post by Lexus Lover
Ray,
Thanks for the follow-up. I am using Pohanka Lexus collission center.
So that should not be a problem. I am assuming it will be put on a
frame machine.
What I am wondering is what I should look for in terms of
documentation from the tem on the frame inspection (subsequent frame
reapairs, etc.), also is their a ceritifaction I should look for from
a frame tech.? etc. د؈ JFIF
Oh and what concerns should I have with my lexus like window leaks,
doors not closing properly, body parts not aligned, etc???
Thanks, Darren

Darren,
Most likely, the only documentation you would get from the frame inspection
and any corrections made to the frame would be something to the effect of
"frame out of alignment - corrected." The shop may give some measurements
before and after the measurement and corrections, if any, are made.
If the car is put on a frame machine and the frame is straight, you should
not have any frame-related problems like door and body part alignment,
leaks, etc.
The thing that is most obvious after most body repairs is mis-matched paint.
Hopefully, if paintwork is involved, the shop will scan the paint and use a
computer to match the paint.

[Ray O]

Post by Lexus Lover
Thanks for the follow-up Ray.
Hopefully the collision center; which is a division of the dealership
where this car was purchased in 1999 can match the paint.
The other issue that has come up is they are replacing the control arm
of the passenger side rear area where it was pushed into the curb. But
I could visibly see that the CV joint was bent. And they had not
indicated it would be fixed, until I insisted it be replaced.
Do you have or know where I can get a picture that breaks out the
parts in the rear axle area, so as to be certain that I identify all
of the possible parts that could be damaged because of this?
Darren

The only place with illustrations that break out the parts in any particular
area are repair manuals (the factory manual shows the most detail) and part
catalogs.

[satmech]

Post by Ray O

Post by Lexus Lover
Thanks for the follow-up Ray.
Hopefully the collision center; which is a division of the dealership
where this car was purchased in 1999 can match the paint.
The other issue that has come up is they are replacing the control arm
of the passenger side rear area where it was pushed into the curb. But
I could visibly see that the CV joint was bent. And they had not
indicated it would be fixed, until I insisted it be replaced.
Do you have or know where I can get a picture that breaks out the
parts in the rear axle area, so as to be certain that I identify all
of the possible parts that could be damaged because of this?
Darren

The only place with illustrations that break out the parts in any particular
area are repair manuals (the factory manual shows the most detail) and part
catalogs.

Professional Estimating Service (251 660-8894) does diminished value.

[Jan van Dam]

Darren,

I sympathize with your plight, as I do love my 1995 GS 300 that I have
had for 10 years now as well.

Post by Lexus Lover
So I naturally have babbied this car - my best ever.... I usually
never park her on the street, but I had run an errand and it being
Sunday evening, was playing with my 3 year old.

Just wanted to mention, before any of us forget, that that "playing with
your 3 year old, is what matters. The car is just that, a car, a
mechanical thing, albeit a very nice one:-) But our loved ones should
always have top place among our thoughts!

AH well, guess I am just being sentimental for once.

Cheers,

Patrick