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Witness: 'Shame on you, Toyota, for being so greedy'
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john
2010-02-24 01:32:16 UTC
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Some excellent testimony videos. Looks like Toyota USA is only a sales
front, no engineering know-how, manufacturing or safety recall
decisions (all done in Japan). And that Lentz guy doesn't seem to know
anything but sales. What a shame.

Videos on: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/35538073#35549366
Under Business -> Autos

http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20100223/AUTO01/2230402/1148/auto01/Witness---Shame-on-you--Toyota--for-being-so-greedy-
Hachiroku ハチロク
2010-02-24 04:34:50 UTC
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Post by john
Some excellent testimony videos. Looks like Toyota USA is only a sales
front, no engineering know-how, manufacturing or safety recall decisions
(all done in Japan). And that Lentz guy doesn't seem to know anything but
sales. What a shame.
Videos on: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/35538073#35549366 Under
Business -> Autos
http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20100223/AUTO01/2230402/1148/auto01/Witness---Shame-on-you--Toyota--for-being-so-greedy-
Is this the lady that couldn't stop her car, even in neutral?
ACAR
2010-02-25 03:33:10 UTC
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Post by john
Some excellent testimony videos.
yeah, if you like Audi 5000 replays

rather than a parade of people whose stories strain credibility how
about a few stories from people who were able to successfully control
their cars after they began to accelerate.
them, I'd like to hear.

(did Woz just turn off his cruise control?)
Hachiroku ハチロク
2010-02-25 04:09:47 UTC
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Post by ACAR
Post by john
Some excellent testimony videos.
yeah, if you like Audi 5000 replays
rather than a parade of people whose stories strain credibility how about
a few stories from people who were able to successfully control their cars
after they began to accelerate. them, I'd like to hear.
(did Woz just turn off his cruise control?)
HEY! Leave Woz alone! His Prius rocketed from 35-100 in just 60 minutes!
Tegger
2010-02-25 11:55:33 UTC
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Post by ACAR
Post by john
Some excellent testimony videos.
yeah, if you like Audi 5000 replays
rather than a parade of people whose stories strain credibility how
about a few stories from people who were able to successfully control
their cars after they began to accelerate.
them, I'd like to hear.
There's the story from the man that drove the Camry in San Diego.

Not the cop that died, but the driver who had that very same car
immediately before the cop.
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Tegger
Hachiroku ハチロク
2010-02-26 00:57:15 UTC
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Post by Tegger
Post by ACAR
Post by john
Some excellent testimony videos.
yeah, if you like Audi 5000 replays
rather than a parade of people whose stories strain credibility how
about a few stories from people who were able to successfully control
their cars after they began to accelerate. them, I'd like to hear.
There's the story from the man that drove the Camry in San Diego.
Not the cop that died, but the driver who had that very same car
immediately before the cop.
The 'very same car' the cop got killed in was a Lexus...
Tegger
2010-02-26 01:06:48 UTC
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Post by Hachiroku ハチロク
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Post by ACAR
Post by john
Some excellent testimony videos.
yeah, if you like Audi 5000 replays
rather than a parade of people whose stories strain credibility how
about a few stories from people who were able to successfully
control their cars after they began to accelerate. them, I'd like to
hear.
There's the story from the man that drove the Camry in San Diego.
Not the cop that died, but the driver who had that very same car
immediately before the cop.
The 'very same car' the cop got killed in was a Lexus...
Sorry, "Lexus". I forgot.

Statement above is still correct. Just substitute "Lexus" for "Camry".
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Tegger
Hachiroku ハチロク
2010-02-26 01:20:54 UTC
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Post by Hachiroku ハチロク
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Post by ACAR
Post by john
Some excellent testimony videos.
yeah, if you like Audi 5000 replays
rather than a parade of people whose stories strain credibility how
about a few stories from people who were able to successfully control
their cars after they began to accelerate. them, I'd like to hear.
There's the story from the man that drove the Camry in San Diego.
Not the cop that died, but the driver who had that very same car
immediately before the cop.
The 'very same car' the cop got killed in was a Lexus...
Sorry, "Lexus". I forgot.
Statement above is still correct. Just substitute "Lexus" for "Camry".
OK. I was worried for a second! ;)

Kevin
2010-02-25 16:14:48 UTC
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On Wed, 24 Feb 2010 19:33:10 -0800 (PST), ACAR
Post by ACAR
Post by john
Some excellent testimony videos.
yeah, if you like Audi 5000 replays
rather than a parade of people whose stories strain credibility how
about a few stories from people who were able to successfully control
their cars after they began to accelerate.
them, I'd like to hear.
(did Woz just turn off his cruise control?)
Check out the story of Kevin Haggerty. He was even able to bring it
into the dealership while it was happening. He had even previously
reported the same problem and the dealership couldn't find a problem.

http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/toyota-driver-abc-news-videos-helped-save-life/story?id=9618954

It's kinda hard to blame it on the driver when it's sitting at the
dealership accelerating on it's own.
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Neo
2010-02-25 12:19:53 UTC
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Normally - CEOs act as the lead Public relations/sales manager
of a firm - the best they can do is either deny something, agree
with you, or say they'll get back to you with an answer later.
Having CEO appear before Congress - is not going to be a
fact-finding-hearing but more of a public grievance and tongue
lashing session. Which is what happens in most public
hearing (the outcome is already pre-determined by actions
occuring outside and before the public hearing ).


For immediate answers for a technical qustion - the two persons
in manufacturing that are much more likely to know the answer
on the spot are the Project/Lead R&D Engineer and the
Project/Lead Testing Engineer for a particular product. While
some Toyotas are not made in Japan - they are all designed,
developed, and tested in Japan so all the engineers would
most likely need a Japanese Translator who specialized
in translating computer technology, engineering, and
scientific works ( who probably would also be an engineer
or scientist as well). Needless to say Toyota's engineers and
Dr. David Gilbert are not in agreement at this time.
Post by john
Some excellent testimony videos. Looks like Toyota USA is only a sales
front, no engineering know-how, manufacturing or safety recall
decisions (all done in Japan). And that Lentz guy doesn't seem to know
anything but sales. What a shame.
Videos on:http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/35538073#35549366
Under Business -> Autos
http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20100223/AUTO01/2230402/1148/auto0...
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