Mr. "I-Me" Obama now takes credit for Lexus Hybrid SUV--Which Began Production in 2004...

[Bill Farley]

Will the narcissism and lying with this guy never end?

(CNSNews.com) -The Obama administration is taking credit for
inspiring Lexus to create a hybrid SUV--even though the
automobile company began the well-publicized production of its
RX 400h SUV hybrid in 2004--four full years before Obama was
elected.

A timeline of the auto company's history, posted on its website,
says: "2004-The first production SUV hybrid, the RX 400h, debuts
with Lexus Hybrid Drive. U.S. Lexus sales reach two million."

Lexus first announced it would market the RX 400h hybrid SUV at
a press conference at the North American International Auto Show
in Detroit, Mich., on Jan. 6, 2004.

"The new RX 400h re-defines the midsize luxury SUV market while
raising awareness and acceptance of hybrid gas-electric vehicles
among luxury car and SUV buyers," Denny Clements, Lexus group
vice president and general manager, said at the SUV's 2004 roll
out. "This is truly a breakthrough in terms of hybrid gas-
electric powertrains because, for the first time, it adds a new
performance dimension to the traditional hybrid advantages of
high mileage and low emissions."

Despite the fact that the RX 400h premiered in 2004, Obama
administration Transportation Secretary Ray LaHood expressed a
different vision of history when he and EPA Administrator Lisa
Jackson were discussing vehicle fuel standards at the Aspen
Ideas Festival on July 3.

“I don’t think the car manufacturers would be manufacturing the
cars they are manufacturing today as hybrids, if it weren’t for
what the president did in signing the executive order and what
Lisa and I have done over the last three and half years about
developing C.A.F.E. (Corporate Average Fuel Economy) standards
for automobiles and light trucks that will get 54.4 miles per
gallon by 2025."

“I think we jump started the ability," said LaHood. "When you
see now a Lexus hybrid, no one would have ever predicted that 2
years ago. Every car manufacturer is getting into hybrid. I
think we jump started those opportunities."

It was widely reported that pre-orders for the Lexus RX 400h SUV
were high, and the vehicle was widely available for sale in
2005. The company made it's first hybrid sedan, the GS 450h,
available in 2006.

President Obama signed the order for the federal government to
raise fuel standards for cars and trucks in May 20, 2010.

According to his biography on the Department of Transportation
web site, Ray LaHood became the 16th Secretary of Transportation
on January 23, 2009. Before that LaHood was a Republican member
of the House of Representatives from Illinois.

http://cnsnews.com/news/article/obama-administration-takes-
credit-inspiring-lexus-hybrid-suv-which-began-production

[Ken Marino]

Post by Bill Farley
Will the narcissism and lying with this guy never end?
(CNSNews.com) -The Obama administration is taking credit for inspiring
Lexus to create a hybrid SUV--even though the automobile company began
the well-publicized production of its RX 400h SUV hybrid in 2004--four
full years before Obama was elected.
"2004-The first production SUV hybrid, the RX 400h, debuts with Lexus
Hybrid Drive. U.S. Lexus sales reach two million."
Lexus first announced it would market the RX 400h hybrid SUV at a press
conference at the North American International Auto Show in Detroit,
Mich., on Jan. 6, 2004.
"The new RX 400h re-defines the midsize luxury SUV market while raising
awareness and acceptance of hybrid gas-electric vehicles among luxury
car and SUV buyers," Denny Clements, Lexus group vice president and
general manager, said at the SUV's 2004 roll out. "This is truly a
breakthrough in terms of hybrid gas- electric powertrains because, for
the first time, it adds a new performance dimension to the traditional
hybrid advantages of high mileage and low emissions."
Despite the fact that the RX 400h premiered in 2004, Obama
administration Transportation Secretary Ray LaHood expressed a different
vision of history when he and EPA Administrator Lisa Jackson were
discussing vehicle fuel standards at the Aspen Ideas Festival on July 3.
“I don’t think the car manufacturers would be manufacturing the cars
they are manufacturing today as hybrids, if it weren’t for what the
president did in signing the executive order and what Lisa and I have
done over the last three and half years about developing C.A.F.E.
(Corporate Average Fuel Economy) standards for automobiles and light
trucks that will get 54.4 miles per gallon by 2025."
“I think we jump started the ability," said LaHood. "When you see now a
Lexus hybrid, no one would have ever predicted that 2 years ago. Every
car manufacturer is getting into hybrid. I think we jump started those
opportunities."
It was widely reported that pre-orders for the Lexus RX 400h SUV were
high, and the vehicle was widely available for sale in 2005. The company
made it's first hybrid sedan, the GS 450h, available in 2006.
President Obama signed the order for the federal government to raise
fuel standards for cars and trucks in May 20, 2010.
According to his biography on the Department of Transportation web site,
Ray LaHood became the 16th Secretary of Transportation on January 23,
2009. Before that LaHood was a Republican member of the House of
Representatives from Illinois.
http://cnsnews.com/news/article/obama-administration-takes-
credit-inspiring-lexus-hybrid-suv-which-began-production

Follows right along with Gore inventing the internet.

[Jeff M]

Post by Ken Marino

Post by Bill Farley
Will the narcissism and lying with this guy never end?

[snip]

Post by Ken Marino

Post by Bill Farley
http://cnsnews.com/news/article/obama-administration-takes-
credit-inspiring-lexus-hybrid-suv-which-began-production

Follows right along with Gore inventing the internet.

Yeah, but only in the sense that Gore never said he "invented the
internet." That's just another example of rightard lies, distortion and
propaganda.

"Myth: Al Gore said he invented the internet.

One of the things Al Gore gets made fun of most often in popular media
tends to be the misconception that he at one point supposedly said he
invented the internet. Now, all politics aside, whether you hate/mildly
dislike/like/love/are indifferent too Al Gore, he doesn’t really deserve
to be made fun of for this one; not only because he really didn’t ever
say that, but also because he really did play a significant role in the
creation of the internet and the World Wide Web.

Let’s look at the actual quote from which he supposedly said he invented
the internet, from a March of 1999 interview with Wolf Blitzer (full
transcript can be found here):

Blitzer: “… Why should Democrats, looking at the Democratic nomination
process, support you instead of Bill Bradley, a friend of yours, a
former colleague in the Senate? What do you have to bring to this that
he doesn’t necessarily bring to this process?”

Gore: “… During my service in the United States Congress, I took the
initiative in creating the Internet. I took the initiative in moving
forward a whole range of initiatives that have proven to be important to
our country’s economic growth and environmental protection, improvements
in our educational system.”

First, remember that he’s a politician and, in political context, the
word “initiative” has a slightly different meaning than is typical
outside of political context. Specifically, in non-political context, it
means something to the effect of: “an introductory act or step which
leads to some action”. In political context, however, it means either “a
procedure by which a specified number of voters may propose a statute,
constitutional amendment, or ordinance, and compel a popular vote on its
adoption.” Or “the general right or ability to present a new bill or
measure, as in a legislature.” Obviously, Gore was speaking in terms of
the latter and his opponents wanted people to believe he was speaking in
terms of the former.

Unfortunately for them, Gore really did “take the initiative”, as he
said. As Vincent Cerf, the “Father of the Internet” said, “The Internet
would not be where it is in the United States without the strong support
given to it and related research areas by the Vice President in his
current role and in his earlier role as Senator.” “As far back as the
1970s, Congressman Gore promoted the idea of high speed
telecommunications as an engine for both economic growth and the
improvement of our educational system. He was the first elected official
to grasp the potential of computer communications to have a broader
impact than just improving the conduct of science and scholarship…” “His
initiatives led directly to the commercialization of the Internet. So he
really does deserve credit.”

Indeed, even former Republican speaker of the U.S. House of
Representatives, Newt Gingrich, stated: “In all fairness, it’s something
Gore had worked on a long time. Gore is not the Father of the Internet,
but in all fairness, Gore is the person who, in the Congress, most
systematically worked to make sure that we got to an Internet…”

But even though he did all that and could rightly say he played a part
in the early creation of the Internet, in this quote from Gore, “I took
the initiative in creating the Internet”, he was most likely referring
to a specific initiative, namely the High Performance Computing and
Communication Act of 1991, which is also known as “The Gore Bill”. Gore
originally started crafting this bill in 1988 after hearing a report
“Toward a National Research Network”, which was submitted to congress by
a group of UCLA computer science professors, including Leonard Kleinrock
who was one of the original creators of the ARPANET, the predecessor to
the Internet.

Gore’s bill eventually passed on December 9, 1991 and led to, among a
lot of other things that contributed to the growth and creation of the
Internet, the National Information Infrastructure (NII), which Gore
referred to as the “Information Superhighway”. Basically, this was a
proposed “advanced, seamless web of public and private communication
networks, interactive services, interoperable hardware and software,
computers, databases, and consumer electronics to put vast amounts of
information at users’ fingertips.”

This bill also ended up resulting in providing funding to Marc
Andreessen, the inventor of the Mosaic Web Browser. Without this grant,
there would have been no Mosaic Web Browser. Why is this important?
Because the Mosaic Web Browser’s release took the World Wide Web from a
fledgling technology used by very few people and rocketed it into the
most popular information sharing model on the Internet. Prior to
Mosaic’s launch, the web was much less popular than older protocols for
dealing with files on the internet, such as Gopher and Wide Area
Information Servers.

Unlike many of the existing web browsers of the day, Mosaic was very
easy for non-technical users to install on a variety of systems. The
creators also offered 24 hour phone support to help people setup the
browser on their particular system. They also offered great continual
support for bug fixes and the like, something that was lacking in a lot
of other browsers. Another feature it had that distinguished it from
other browsers was that it included the ability to view web pages with
inline images, instead of having them load in separate windows, as other
web browsers at the time. Mosaic’s popularity eventually declined with
the release of Netscape Navigator, but it was the browser that is
credited with spurring the popularity of the World Wide Web, which was
one of the “Killer Apps” of the Internet.

The other thing the media and Gore’s opponents did was change the word
“create” to “invent”. These two words mean similar things, but with a
very key distinction that is important, particularly in cases like
Gore’s quote. Had he used “invent”, his opponents might have had a leg
to stand on. “Invent” implying “to devise by thinking” or “discover”.
Gore certainly didn’t think up or discover the Internet or the World
Wide Web.

On the other hand, “create” has a slightly different meaning: “to
produce or bring about by a course of action or behavior” or “to bring
into existence”. Gore absolutely helped “bring about by a course of
action or behavior” the Internet and the World Wide Web which runs on
top of it. This is why most opponents of Gore changed the wording to say
that he said he “invented” it, because he did not do that and thus would
look like a liar. Even though he never said that, but his opponents knew
that most people don’t look into these things and the main stream media
knew that by going along with this, the story would get better ratings.

So taken in context, his statement, though somewhat poorly worded, is
simply saying that he promoted and helped get funding, hence had a
somewhat significant part in the creation, for the system that
eventually became the Internet and for the World Wide Web, which runs on
top of the Internet. This, in turn, contributed significantly to the
economic growth seen as a result of the Internet and the World Wide Web.
So his statement really was pretty accurate."
http://www.todayifoundout.com/index.php/2010/12/al-gore-never-said-he-invented-the-internet/

[emoneyjoe]

Post by Jeff M

Post by Ken Marino

Post by Bill Farley
Will the narcissism and lying with this guy never end?

[snip]

Post by Ken Marino

Post by Bill Farley
http://cnsnews.com/news/article/obama-administration-takes-
credit-inspiring-lexus-hybrid-suv-which-began-production

Follows right along with Gore inventing the internet.

Yeah, but only in the sense that Gore never said he "invented the
internet." That's just another example of rightard lies, distortion and
propaganda.
"Myth: Al Gore said he invented the internet.
One of the things Al Gore gets made fun of most often in popular media
tends to be the misconception that he at one point supposedly said he
invented the internet. Now, all politics aside, whether you hate/mildly
dislike/like/love/are indifferent too Al Gore, he doesn’t really deserve
to be made fun of for this one; not only because he really didn’t ever
say that, but also because he really did play a significant role in the
creation of the internet and the World Wide Web.
Let’s look at the actual quote from which he supposedly said he invented
the internet, from a March of 1999 interview with Wolf Blitzer (full
Blitzer: “… Why should Democrats, looking at the Democratic nomination
process, support you instead of Bill Bradley, a friend of yours, a
former colleague in the Senate? What do you have to bring to this that
he doesn’t necessarily bring to this process?”
Gore: “… During my service in the United States Congress, I took the
initiative in creating the Internet. I took the initiative in moving
forward a whole range of initiatives that have proven to be important to
our country’s economic growth and environmental protection, improvements
in our educational system.”
First, remember that he’s a politician and, in political context, the
word “initiative” has a slightly different meaning than is typical
outside of political context. Specifically, in non-political context, it
means something to the effect of: “an introductory act or step which
leads to some action”. In political context, however, it means either “a
procedure by which a specified number of voters may propose a statute,
constitutional amendment, or ordinance, and compel a popular vote on its
adoption.” Or “the general right or ability to present a new bill or
measure, as in a legislature.” Obviously, Gore was speaking in terms of
the latter and his opponents wanted people to believe he was speaking in
terms of the former.
Unfortunately for them, Gore really did “take the initiative”, as he
said. As Vincent Cerf, the “Father of the Internet” said, “The Internet
would not be where it is in the United States without the strong support
given to it and related research areas by the Vice President in his
current role and in his earlier role as Senator.” “As far back as the
1970s, Congressman Gore promoted the idea of high speed
telecommunications as an engine for both economic growth and the
improvement of our educational system. He was the first elected official
to grasp the potential of computer communications to have a broader
impact than just improving the conduct of science and scholarship…” “His
initiatives led directly to the commercialization of the Internet. So he
really does deserve credit.”
Indeed, even former Republican speaker of the U.S. House of
Representatives, Newt Gingrich, stated: “In all fairness, it’s something
Gore had worked on a long time. Gore is not the Father of the Internet,
but in all fairness, Gore is the person who, in the Congress, most
systematically worked to make sure that we got to an Internet…”
But even though he did all that and could rightly say he played a part
in the early creation of the Internet, in this quote from Gore, “I took
the initiative in creating the Internet”, he was most likely referring
to a specific initiative, namely the High Performance Computing and
Communication Act of 1991, which is also known as “The Gore Bill”. Gore
originally started crafting this bill in 1988 after hearing a report
“Toward a National Research Network”, which was submitted to congress by
a group of UCLA computer science professors, including Leonard Kleinrock
who was one of the original creators of the ARPANET, the predecessor to
the Internet.
Gore’s bill eventually passed on December 9, 1991 and led to, among a
lot of other things that contributed to the growth and creation of the
Internet, the National Information Infrastructure (NII), which Gore
referred to as the “Information Superhighway”. Basically, this was a
proposed “advanced, seamless web of public and private communication
networks, interactive services, interoperable hardware and software,
computers, databases, and consumer electronics to put vast amounts of
information at users’ fingertips.”
This bill also ended up resulting in providing funding to Marc
Andreessen, the inventor of the Mosaic Web Browser. Without this grant,
there would have been no Mosaic Web Browser. Why is this important?
Because the Mosaic Web Browser’s release took the World Wide Web from a
fledgling technology used by very few people and rocketed it into the
most popular information sharing model on the Internet. Prior to
Mosaic’s launch, the web was much less popular than older protocols for
dealing with files on the internet, such as Gopher and Wide Area
Information Servers.
Unlike many of the existing web browsers of the day, Mosaic was very
easy for non-technical users to install on a variety of systems. The
creators also offered 24 hour phone support to help people setup the
browser on their particular system. They also offered great continual
support for bug fixes and the like, something that was lacking in a lot
of other browsers. Another feature it had that distinguished it from
other browsers was that it included the ability to view web pages with
inline images, instead of having them load in separate windows, as other
web browsers at the time. Mosaic’s popularity eventually declined with
the release of Netscape Navigator, but it was the browser that is
credited with spurring the popularity of the World Wide Web, which was
one of the “Killer Apps” of the Internet.
The other thing the media and Gore’s opponents did was change the word
“create” to “invent”. These two words mean similar things, but with a
very key distinction that is important, particularly in cases like
Gore’s quote. Had he used “invent”, his opponents might have had a leg
to stand on. “Invent” implying “to devise by thinking” or “discover”.
Gore certainly didn’t think up or discover the Internet or the World
Wide Web.
On the other hand, “create” has a slightly different meaning: “to
produce or bring about by a course of action or behavior” or “to bring
into existence”. Gore absolutely helped “bring about by a course of
action or behavior” the Internet and the World Wide Web which runs on
top of it. This is why most opponents of Gore changed the wording to say
that he said he “invented” it, because he did not do that and thus would
look like a liar. Even though he never said that, but his opponents knew
that most people don’t look into these things and the main stream media
knew that by going along with this, the story would get better ratings.
So taken in context, his statement, though somewhat poorly worded, is
simply saying that he promoted and helped get funding, hence had a
somewhat significant part in the creation, for the system that
eventually became the Internet and for the World Wide Web, which runs on
top of the Internet. This, in turn, contributed significantly to the
economic growth seen as a result of the Internet and the World Wide Web.
So his statement really was pretty accurate."
http://www.todayifoundout.com/index.php/2010/12/al-gore-never-said-he-invented-the-internet/

What a bunch of gobbly-gook you pasted, the
author seems to be overly impressed with a GUI
browser, or only knew of the one, while most of
the interest in wide area communication by computer
occurred before and without a GUI, mostly by
small computer Bulletin Board Systems run by
Sysops who were mostly volunteers operating
without much discussion of funding.

"The website textfiles.com serves as an archive that documents the
history of the BBS. The historical BBS list on textfiles.com contains
over 105,000 BBSes that have existed over a span of 20 years in North
America alone. The owner of textfiles.com, Jason Scott, also produced
BBS: The Documentary, a DVD film that chronicles the history of the BBS
and features interviews with well-known people (mostly from the United
States) from the heyday BBS era."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bulletin_board_system

http://bbslist.textfiles.com/

http://bbslist.textfiles.com/usbbs.html


263 Area Codes Listed.
106,314 BBSes Listed

Are there that many ISPs in the US today?
And notice very few are listed from the 1980s
or before. Without this huge base of interest,
the non-college internet would have not gained
users as fast.


And think of the Billions of hours wasted,
by people at home and at work, surfing, reading,
looking at images and ANSI Art, and ASCII Art,
or playing solitaire. :-)

[Jeff M]

Post by emoneyjoe

Post by Jeff M

Post by Ken Marino

Post by Bill Farley
Will the narcissism and lying with this guy never end?

[snip]

Post by Ken Marino

Post by Bill Farley
http://cnsnews.com/news/article/obama-administration-takes-
credit-inspiring-lexus-hybrid-suv-which-began-production

Follows right along with Gore inventing the internet.

Yeah, but only in the sense that Gore never said he "invented the
internet." That's just another example of rightard lies, distortion and
propaganda.
"Myth: Al Gore said he invented the internet.
One of the things Al Gore gets made fun of most often in popular media
tends to be the misconception that he at one point supposedly said he
invented the internet. Now, all politics aside, whether you hate/mildly
dislike/like/love/are indifferent too Al Gore, he doesn’t really deserve
to be made fun of for this one; not only because he really didn’t ever
say that, but also because he really did play a significant role in the
creation of the internet and the World Wide Web.

[snip]

Post by emoneyjoe

Post by Jeff M
So his statement really was pretty accurate."
http://www.todayifoundout.com/index.php/2010/12/al-gore-never-said-he-invented-the-internet/

What a bunch of gobbly-gook you pasted,

Just because you may not have understand what you've read, that doesn't
mean that it is "gobbly-gook."

It's a decent explanation of why those who falsely claim Gore said he
invented the internet are mistaken, lying or at least heavily distorting
the truth. That was the main point of the article.

Post by emoneyjoe
the
author seems to be overly impressed with a GUI
browser, or only knew of the one, while most of
the interest in wide area communication by computer
occurred before and without a GUI, mostly by
small computer Bulletin Board Systems run by
Sysops who were mostly volunteers operating
without much discussion of funding.
"The website textfiles.com serves as an archive that documents the
history of the BBS. The historical BBS list on textfiles.com contains
over 105,000 BBSes that have existed over a span of 20 years in North
America alone. The owner of textfiles.com, Jason Scott, also produced
BBS: The Documentary, a DVD film that chronicles the history of the BBS
and features interviews with well-known people (mostly from the United
States) from the heyday BBS era."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bulletin_board_system
http://bbslist.textfiles.com/
http://bbslist.textfiles.com/usbbs.html
263 Area Codes Listed.
106,314 BBSes Listed
Are there that many ISPs in the US today?
And notice very few are listed from the 1980s
or before. Without this huge base of interest,
the non-college internet would have not gained
users as fast.
And think of the Billions of hours wasted,
by people at home and at work, surfing, reading,
looking at images and ANSI Art, and ASCII Art,
or playing solitaire. :-)

Whether true or not, all that is irrelevant to the main point of the
article.