02 ES300 trans hesitation report

[njbok]

Some time ago I mentioned that, after complaining to a Lexus service advisor
about my ongoing trans hesitation (well it really became a trans
jerking-while-finding-a-gear problem after last software upgrade) that he
mentioned that Lexus had issued a TSB that stated the need for premium fuel
after the upgrade. I doubted it and he couldn't find the TSB. I later found
it online however, and he was right - it did state that. I still had my
doubts about fuel being involved.

Some here said that it was possible for the octane level to affect the trans
performance. I finally gave in, and have been using premium fuel for the
past few thousand miles, and I have to say there is a big improvement.
Yesterday I felt the jerkiness again though - but it was a minor episode
compared to previous ones, and it was the first and only time since I
started using premium.

Now, it's kind of academic though, because I've been looking into getting an
'04 LS430. In doing my research on that vehicle, however, I learn that they
had a recall on those 430s made in '03 whereby the trans is replaced ! I
thought the worst thing on those cars was the air suspension. Now I have to
worry about the trans on the LS430 I might buy !

Does anyone have any info on the 04 LS430 (6-speed) trans problem ?

(I suppose I should have started a new topic for this LS question.)

[-]

Post by njbok
Now, it's kind of academic though, because I've been looking into getting an
'04 LS430. ...
thought the worst thing on those cars was the air suspension. Now I have to

What's wrong with the hydraulic suspension? I have it on my ES300 and
I like the ability to adjust the suspension stiffness depending on the
drive condition.

[njbok]

There was talk earlier on this board about many problems w/air suspension on
LS models, and hints that LS models so-equipped were to be avoided. Maybe ES
models are okay.

Post by -
What's wrong with the hydraulic suspension?

[Steve Larson]

I found an aftermarket product online that is an ECU upgrade, and it
specifically addresses response issues. I've been kicking around giving it
a try, but only if it is reversible. Would sure love to know if anyone has
tried on on the 02 ES300.

Post by njbok
Some time ago I mentioned that, after complaining to a Lexus service advisor
about my ongoing trans hesitation (well it really became a trans
jerking-while-finding-a-gear problem after last software upgrade) that he
mentioned that Lexus had issued a TSB that stated the need for premium fuel
after the upgrade. I doubted it and he couldn't find the TSB. I later found
it online however, and he was right - it did state that. I still had my
doubts about fuel being involved.
Some here said that it was possible for the octane level to affect the trans
performance. I finally gave in, and have been using premium fuel for the
past few thousand miles, and I have to say there is a big improvement.
Yesterday I felt the jerkiness again though - but it was a minor episode
compared to previous ones, and it was the first and only time since I
started using premium.
Now, it's kind of academic though, because I've been looking into getting an
'04 LS430. In doing my research on that vehicle, however, I learn that they
had a recall on those 430s made in '03 whereby the trans is replaced ! I
thought the worst thing on those cars was the air suspension. Now I have to
worry about the trans on the LS430 I might buy !
Does anyone have any info on the 04 LS430 (6-speed) trans problem ?
(I suppose I should have started a new topic for this LS question.)

[-]

Post by Steve Larson
I found an aftermarket product online that is an ECU upgrade, and it
specifically addresses response issues. I've been kicking around giving it
a try, but only if it is reversible. Would sure love to know if anyone has
tried on on the 02 ES300.

Link?

[Steve Larson]

http://www.performanceproducts.com/productpage.aspx?pid=108602&name=Jet+Performance+Software+

product made by Jet Electronics, sold at Performance Products

Post by Steve Larson
I found an aftermarket product online that is an ECU upgrade, and it
specifically addresses response issues. I've been kicking around giving it
a try, but only if it is reversible. Would sure love to know if anyone has
tried on on the 02 ES300.

Link?

[greg]

Post by njbok
Some time ago I mentioned that, after complaining to a Lexus service advisor
about my ongoing trans hesitation (well it really became a trans
jerking-while-finding-a-gear problem after last software upgrade) that he
mentioned that Lexus had issued a TSB that stated the need for premium fuel
after the upgrade. I doubted it and he couldn't find the TSB. I later found
it online however, and he was right - it did state that. I still had my
doubts about fuel being involved.
Some here said that it was possible for the octane level to affect the trans
performance. I finally gave in, and have been using premium fuel for the
past few thousand miles, and I have to say there is a big improvement.
Yesterday I felt the jerkiness again though - but it was a minor episode
compared to previous ones, and it was the first and only time since I
started using premium.
Now, it's kind of academic though, because I've been looking into getting an
'04 LS430. In doing my research on that vehicle, however, I learn that they
had a recall on those 430s made in '03 whereby the trans is replaced ! I
thought the worst thing on those cars was the air suspension. Now I have to
worry about the trans on the LS430 I might buy !
Does anyone have any info on the 04 LS430 (6-speed) trans problem ?
(I suppose I should have started a new topic for this LS question.)

It was for a piece of metal that might jam the parking pawl inside the
transmission! Hardly a major problem.....

[njbok]

Thanks Greg. That makes me feel better. I bought the car (04 LS430) today.
I'm hoping to enjoy it.

Walt




On 4/27/07 4:30 PM, in article

Post by greg

Post by njbok
had a recall on those 430s made in '03 whereby the trans is replaced !
Does anyone have any info on the 04 LS430 (6-speed) trans problem ?

It was for a piece of metal that might jam the parking pawl inside the
transmission! Hardly a major problem.....

[GIga]

I've had my '04 LS430 from new (now with 40,000 miles), and never had a
problem with it, period. It's a sample of one, but this is my 6th LS, and
other than having one stolen while I was vacationing in New York (serves me
right for going to NY I suppose), the worst thing that's ever happened is a
water pump failed after 50,000 miles (which was replaced for free even
though it was out of warranty). You won't be sorry with your LS.

-C

Post by njbok
Some time ago I mentioned that, after complaining to a Lexus service advisor
about my ongoing trans hesitation (well it really became a trans
jerking-while-finding-a-gear problem after last software upgrade) that he
mentioned that Lexus had issued a TSB that stated the need for premium fuel
after the upgrade. I doubted it and he couldn't find the TSB. I later found
it online however, and he was right - it did state that. I still had my
doubts about fuel being involved.
Some here said that it was possible for the octane level to affect the trans
performance. I finally gave in, and have been using premium fuel for the
past few thousand miles, and I have to say there is a big improvement.
Yesterday I felt the jerkiness again though - but it was a minor episode
compared to previous ones, and it was the first and only time since I
started using premium.
Now, it's kind of academic though, because I've been looking into getting an
'04 LS430. In doing my research on that vehicle, however, I learn that they
had a recall on those 430s made in '03 whereby the trans is replaced ! I
thought the worst thing on those cars was the air suspension. Now I have to
worry about the trans on the LS430 I might buy !
Does anyone have any info on the 04 LS430 (6-speed) trans problem ?
(I suppose I should have started a new topic for this LS question.)

[Elmo P. Shagnasty]

Post by GIga
I've had my '04 LS430 from new (now with 40,000 miles), and never had a
problem with it, period. It's a sample of one, but this is my 6th LS, and
other than having one stolen while I was vacationing in New York (serves me
right for going to NY I suppose), the worst thing that's ever happened is a
water pump failed after 50,000 miles (which was replaced for free even
though it was out of warranty). You won't be sorry with your LS.

How would you know? You've had 6 of them? You haven't had one long
enough to know anything about their reliability.

Actually, it sounds like they aren't very reliable, if you've had 6 of
them. That's one every 3 years. Nobody can speak to the reliability of
any of them with at most 3 years of experience for any given model year
under his belt.

[GIga]

Hey! The moron speaks! Yippeeee!! Hadn't seen your useless crap for a
while, and kinda hoped you'd gone back to your hole... no such luck.

Post by Elmo P. Shagnasty

Post by GIga
I've had my '04 LS430 from new (now with 40,000 miles), and never had a
problem with it, period. It's a sample of one, but this is my 6th LS, and
other than having one stolen while I was vacationing in New York (serves me
right for going to NY I suppose), the worst thing that's ever happened is a
water pump failed after 50,000 miles (which was replaced for free even
though it was out of warranty). You won't be sorry with your LS.

How would you know? You've had 6 of them? You haven't had one long
enough to know anything about their reliability.
Actually, it sounds like they aren't very reliable, if you've had 6 of
them. That's one every 3 years. Nobody can speak to the reliability of
any of them with at most 3 years of experience for any given model year
under his belt.

[Elmo P. Shagnasty]

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Post by GIga
I've had my '04 LS430 from new (now with 40,000 miles), and never had a
problem with it, period. It's a sample of one, but this is my 6th LS, and
other than having one stolen while I was vacationing in New York (serves me
right for going to NY I suppose), the worst thing that's ever happened is a
water pump failed after 50,000 miles (which was replaced for free even
though it was out of warranty). You won't be sorry with your LS.

How would you know? You've had 6 of them? You haven't had one long
enough to know anything about their reliability.
Actually, it sounds like they aren't very reliable, if you've had 6 of
them. That's one every 3 years. Nobody can speak to the reliability of
any of them with at most 3 years of experience for any given model year
under his belt.

Hey! The moron speaks! Yippeeee!! Hadn't seen your useless crap for a
while, and kinda hoped you'd gone back to your hole... no such luck.

It's funny to watch a moron like you squirm when reality is thrown in
your face.

Did you ever stop to think that the problem is YOU?

[Giga]

MORON MORON MORON (gee, this is fun!) See what happens when cousins marry?
They make SHAGGY NASTIES!

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Post by GIga
I've had my '04 LS430 from new (now with 40,000 miles), and never had a
problem with it, period. It's a sample of one, but this is my 6th LS, and
other than having one stolen while I was vacationing in New York
(serves
me
right for going to NY I suppose), the worst thing that's ever happened
is
a
water pump failed after 50,000 miles (which was replaced for free even
though it was out of warranty). You won't be sorry with your LS.

How would you know? You've had 6 of them? You haven't had one long
enough to know anything about their reliability.
Actually, it sounds like they aren't very reliable, if you've had 6 of
them. That's one every 3 years. Nobody can speak to the reliability of
any of them with at most 3 years of experience for any given model year
under his belt.

Hey! The moron speaks! Yippeeee!! Hadn't seen your useless crap for a
while, and kinda hoped you'd gone back to your hole... no such luck.

It's funny to watch a moron like you squirm when reality is thrown in
your face.
Did you ever stop to think that the problem is YOU?

[Elmo P. Shagnasty]

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Post by GIga
I've had my '04 LS430 from new (now with 40,000 miles), and never had a
problem with it, period. It's a sample of one, but this is my 6th LS, and
other than having one stolen while I was vacationing in New York
(serves
me
right for going to NY I suppose), the worst thing that's ever happened
is
a
water pump failed after 50,000 miles (which was replaced for free even
though it was out of warranty). You won't be sorry with your LS.

How would you know? You've had 6 of them? You haven't had one long
enough to know anything about their reliability.
Actually, it sounds like they aren't very reliable, if you've had 6 of
them. That's one every 3 years. Nobody can speak to the reliability of
any of them with at most 3 years of experience for any given model year
under his belt.

Hey! The moron speaks! Yippeeee!! Hadn't seen your useless crap for a
while, and kinda hoped you'd gone back to your hole... no such luck.

It's funny to watch a moron like you squirm when reality is thrown in
your face.
Did you ever stop to think that the problem is YOU?

MORON MORON MORON (gee, this is fun!) See what happens when cousins marry?
They make SHAGGY NASTIES!

I do see what happens when your cousins marry.

Fact: you go through cars like most people go through bottles of water,
yet you think your experience on how long the cars last and how reliable
they are is meaningful.

It's not.

And the more you speak, the more you show yourself for what you are.

[Giga]

Tee hee. You make me laugh. At least you're good for something. I guess
if you had money, you could have new cars too whenever you wanted to.

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Post by GIga
I've had my '04 LS430 from new (now with 40,000 miles), and never
had
a
problem with it, period. It's a sample of one, but this is my 6th
LS,
and
other than having one stolen while I was vacationing in New York
(serves
me
right for going to NY I suppose), the worst thing that's ever happened
is
a
water pump failed after 50,000 miles (which was replaced for free even
though it was out of warranty). You won't be sorry with your LS.

How would you know? You've had 6 of them? You haven't had one long
enough to know anything about their reliability.
Actually, it sounds like they aren't very reliable, if you've had 6 of
them. That's one every 3 years. Nobody can speak to the
reliability
of
any of them with at most 3 years of experience for any given model year
under his belt.

Hey! The moron speaks! Yippeeee!! Hadn't seen your useless crap for a
while, and kinda hoped you'd gone back to your hole... no such luck.

It's funny to watch a moron like you squirm when reality is thrown in
your face.
Did you ever stop to think that the problem is YOU?

MORON MORON MORON (gee, this is fun!) See what happens when cousins marry?
They make SHAGGY NASTIES!

I do see what happens when your cousins marry.
Fact: you go through cars like most people go through bottles of water,
yet you think your experience on how long the cars last and how reliable
they are is meaningful.
It's not.
And the more you speak, the more you show yourself for what you are.

[Elmo P. Shagnasty]

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Post by GIga
I've had my '04 LS430 from new (now with 40,000 miles), and never
had
a
problem with it, period. It's a sample of one, but this is my 6th
LS,
and
other than having one stolen while I was vacationing in New York
(serves
me
right for going to NY I suppose), the worst thing that's ever happened
is
a
water pump failed after 50,000 miles (which was replaced for free even
though it was out of warranty). You won't be sorry with your LS.

How would you know? You've had 6 of them? You haven't had one long
enough to know anything about their reliability.
Actually, it sounds like they aren't very reliable, if you've had 6 of
them. That's one every 3 years. Nobody can speak to the
reliability
of
any of them with at most 3 years of experience for any given model year
under his belt.

Hey! The moron speaks! Yippeeee!! Hadn't seen your useless crap for a
while, and kinda hoped you'd gone back to your hole... no such luck.

It's funny to watch a moron like you squirm when reality is thrown in
your face.
Did you ever stop to think that the problem is YOU?

MORON MORON MORON (gee, this is fun!) See what happens when cousins marry?
They make SHAGGY NASTIES!

I do see what happens when your cousins marry.
Fact: you go through cars like most people go through bottles of water,
yet you think your experience on how long the cars last and how reliable
they are is meaningful.
It's not.
And the more you speak, the more you show yourself for what you are.

Tee hee. You make me laugh. At least you're good for something. I guess
if you had money, you could have new cars too whenever you wanted to.

Ummmmm......I do.

On both counts.

That doesn't change a thing: you have no personal data on how reliable
the car is, yet you come here and spout crap out your pie hole about it.

You're the one who's amusing to watch, frankly.

[GIga]

I wonder how long monkey boy will continue to try and show everyone how
smart he is by replying to my taunting posts? Let's see if he'll bite on
this one too!

(Pie hole huh? Wow. My teenage daughter uses that expression too. Wonder
if Shaggy Fag is really a teenage girl?)

:-)

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Post by GIga
I've had my '04 LS430 from new (now with 40,000 miles), and never
had
a
problem with it, period. It's a sample of one, but this is my 6th
LS,
and
other than having one stolen while I was vacationing in New York
(serves
me
right for going to NY I suppose), the worst thing that's ever happened
is
a
water pump failed after 50,000 miles (which was replaced for
free
even
though it was out of warranty). You won't be sorry with your LS.

How would you know? You've had 6 of them? You haven't had one long
enough to know anything about their reliability.
Actually, it sounds like they aren't very reliable, if you've had
6
of
them. That's one every 3 years. Nobody can speak to the
reliability
of
any of them with at most 3 years of experience for any given
model
year
under his belt.

Hey! The moron speaks! Yippeeee!! Hadn't seen your useless crap
for
a
while, and kinda hoped you'd gone back to your hole... no such luck.

It's funny to watch a moron like you squirm when reality is thrown in
your face.
Did you ever stop to think that the problem is YOU?

MORON MORON MORON (gee, this is fun!) See what happens when cousins marry?
They make SHAGGY NASTIES!

I do see what happens when your cousins marry.
Fact: you go through cars like most people go through bottles of water,
yet you think your experience on how long the cars last and how reliable
they are is meaningful.
It's not.
And the more you speak, the more you show yourself for what you are.

Tee hee. You make me laugh. At least you're good for something. I guess
if you had money, you could have new cars too whenever you wanted to.

Ummmmm......I do.
On both counts.
That doesn't change a thing: you have no personal data on how reliable
the car is, yet you come here and spout crap out your pie hole about it.
You're the one who's amusing to watch, frankly.

[Elmo P. Shagnasty]

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Post by GIga
I've had my '04 LS430 from new (now with 40,000 miles), and never
had
a
problem with it, period. It's a sample of one, but this is my 6th
LS,
and
other than having one stolen while I was vacationing in New York
(serves
me
right for going to NY I suppose), the worst thing that's ever
happened
is
a
water pump failed after 50,000 miles (which was replaced for
free
even
though it was out of warranty). You won't be sorry with your LS.

How would you know? You've had 6 of them? You haven't had one long
enough to know anything about their reliability.
Actually, it sounds like they aren't very reliable, if you've had
6
of
them. That's one every 3 years. Nobody can speak to the
reliability
of
any of them with at most 3 years of experience for any given
model
year
under his belt.

Hey! The moron speaks! Yippeeee!! Hadn't seen your useless crap
for
a
while, and kinda hoped you'd gone back to your hole... no such luck.

It's funny to watch a moron like you squirm when reality is thrown in
your face.
Did you ever stop to think that the problem is YOU?

MORON MORON MORON (gee, this is fun!) See what happens when cousins marry?
They make SHAGGY NASTIES!

I do see what happens when your cousins marry.
Fact: you go through cars like most people go through bottles of water,
yet you think your experience on how long the cars last and how reliable
they are is meaningful.
It's not.
And the more you speak, the more you show yourself for what you are.

Tee hee. You make me laugh. At least you're good for something. I guess
if you had money, you could have new cars too whenever you wanted to.

Ummmmm......I do.
On both counts.
That doesn't change a thing: you have no personal data on how reliable
the car is, yet you come here and spout crap out your pie hole about it.
You're the one who's amusing to watch, frankly.

I wonder how long monkey boy will continue to try and show everyone how
smart he is by replying to my taunting posts? Let's see if he'll bite on
this one too!
(Pie hole huh? Wow. My teenage daughter uses that expression too. Wonder
if Shaggy Fag is really a teenage girl?)
:-)

[Giga]

Just what I figured. That's everything she knows, all posted in her last
post!

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Post by GIga
I've had my '04 LS430 from new (now with 40,000 miles), and never
had
a
problem with it, period. It's a sample of one, but this is
my
6th
LS,
and
other than having one stolen while I was vacationing in New York
(serves
me
right for going to NY I suppose), the worst thing that's ever
happened
is
a
water pump failed after 50,000 miles (which was replaced for
free
even
though it was out of warranty). You won't be sorry with your LS.

How would you know? You've had 6 of them? You haven't had
one
long
enough to know anything about their reliability.
Actually, it sounds like they aren't very reliable, if you've had
6
of
them. That's one every 3 years. Nobody can speak to the
reliability
of
any of them with at most 3 years of experience for any given
model
year
under his belt.

Hey! The moron speaks! Yippeeee!! Hadn't seen your useless crap
for
a
while, and kinda hoped you'd gone back to your hole... no such luck.

It's funny to watch a moron like you squirm when reality is
thrown
in
your face.
Did you ever stop to think that the problem is YOU?

MORON MORON MORON (gee, this is fun!) See what happens when
cousins
marry?
They make SHAGGY NASTIES!

I do see what happens when your cousins marry.
Fact: you go through cars like most people go through bottles of water,
yet you think your experience on how long the cars last and how reliable
they are is meaningful.
It's not.
And the more you speak, the more you show yourself for what you are.

Tee hee. You make me laugh. At least you're good for something. I guess
if you had money, you could have new cars too whenever you wanted to.

Ummmmm......I do.
On both counts.
That doesn't change a thing: you have no personal data on how reliable
the car is, yet you come here and spout crap out your pie hole about it.
You're the one who's amusing to watch, frankly.

I wonder how long monkey boy will continue to try and show everyone how
smart he is by replying to my taunting posts? Let's see if he'll bite on
this one too!
(Pie hole huh? Wow. My teenage daughter uses that expression too.
Wonder
if Shaggy Fag is really a teenage girl?)
:-)

[Elmo P. Shagnasty]

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Post by GIga
I've had my '04 LS430 from new (now with 40,000 miles), and
never
had
a
problem with it, period. It's a sample of one, but this is
my
6th
LS,
and
other than having one stolen while I was vacationing in New
York
(serves
me
right for going to NY I suppose), the worst thing that's ever
happened
is
a
water pump failed after 50,000 miles (which was replaced for
free
even
though it was out of warranty). You won't be sorry with your
LS.

How would you know? You've had 6 of them? You haven't had
one
long
enough to know anything about their reliability.
Actually, it sounds like they aren't very reliable, if you've
had
6
of
them. That's one every 3 years. Nobody can speak to the
reliability
of
any of them with at most 3 years of experience for any given
model
year
under his belt.

Hey! The moron speaks! Yippeeee!! Hadn't seen your useless crap
for
a
while, and kinda hoped you'd gone back to your hole... no such
luck.

It's funny to watch a moron like you squirm when reality is
thrown
in
your face.
Did you ever stop to think that the problem is YOU?

MORON MORON MORON (gee, this is fun!) See what happens when
cousins
marry?
They make SHAGGY NASTIES!

I do see what happens when your cousins marry.
Fact: you go through cars like most people go through bottles of water,
yet you think your experience on how long the cars last and how reliable
they are is meaningful.
It's not.
And the more you speak, the more you show yourself for what you are.

Tee hee. You make me laugh. At least you're good for something. I guess
if you had money, you could have new cars too whenever you wanted to.

Ummmmm......I do.
On both counts.
That doesn't change a thing: you have no personal data on how reliable
the car is, yet you come here and spout crap out your pie hole about it.
You're the one who's amusing to watch, frankly.

I wonder how long monkey boy will continue to try and show everyone how
smart he is by replying to my taunting posts? Let's see if he'll bite on
this one too!
(Pie hole huh? Wow. My teenage daughter uses that expression too.
Wonder
if Shaggy Fag is really a teenage girl?)
:-)

Just what I figured. That's everything she knows, all posted in her last
post!

[Giga]

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Post by Elmo P. Shagnasty

Post by GIga
I've had my '04 LS430 from new (now with 40,000 miles), and
never
had
a
problem with it, period. It's a sample of one, but this is
my
6th
LS,
and
other than having one stolen while I was vacationing in New
York
(serves
me
right for going to NY I suppose), the worst thing that's
ever
happened
is
a
water pump failed after 50,000 miles (which was replaced
for
free
even
though it was out of warranty). You won't be sorry with
your
LS.

How would you know? You've had 6 of them? You haven't had
one
long
enough to know anything about their reliability.
Actually, it sounds like they aren't very reliable, if you've
had
6
of
them. That's one every 3 years. Nobody can speak to the
reliability
of
any of them with at most 3 years of experience for any given
model
year
under his belt.

Hey! The moron speaks! Yippeeee!! Hadn't seen your useless
crap
for
a
while, and kinda hoped you'd gone back to your hole... no such
luck.

It's funny to watch a moron like you squirm when reality is
thrown
in
your face.
Did you ever stop to think that the problem is YOU?

MORON MORON MORON (gee, this is fun!) See what happens when
cousins
marry?
They make SHAGGY NASTIES!

I do see what happens when your cousins marry.
Fact: you go through cars like most people go through bottles of water,
yet you think your experience on how long the cars last and how reliable
they are is meaningful.
It's not.
And the more you speak, the more you show yourself for what you are.

Tee hee. You make me laugh. At least you're good for something.
I
guess
if you had money, you could have new cars too whenever you wanted to.

Ummmmm......I do.
On both counts.
That doesn't change a thing: you have no personal data on how reliable
the car is, yet you come here and spout crap out your pie hole about it.
You're the one who's amusing to watch, frankly.

I wonder how long monkey boy will continue to try and show everyone how
smart he is by replying to my taunting posts? Let's see if he'll bite on
this one too!
(Pie hole huh? Wow. My teenage daughter uses that expression too.
Wonder
if Shaggy Fag is really a teenage girl?)
:-)

Just what I figured. That's everything she knows, all posted in her last
post!

[njbok]

Post by GIga
You won't be sorry with your LS.

Well, I picked it up today and love it. I have a lot of reading to do -
can't even figure out what half the buttons and switches do yet.

The Nav is different than the one in my 02 ES - took me 20 mins to figure
out how to set my HOME in it - and that's using the book.

BTW, I didn't get a trunk net with it. I thought they came equipped with
that as standard equipment. When I asked, they said it was an option, and
mine probably never had it.