GM vs Toyota

[Gardis]

Dear All,
I read the discussion about GM vs. Toyota. First of all, the way the
Japanese infiltrated our market goes back to the 1970's. Little by
little, they started building cars that were BETTER than the American
models. I remember we had Pontiac LeMans 1966 with a V8 engine. That
car, when you stepped on the gas, the engine would conk out. Have you
ever heard a Toyota doing that?

Toyota makes one of the finest cars in the world. Their cars are much
more gas efficient than the American models also. Compare the RX to a
Ford Explorer, and you tell me which one gets thebetter gas mileage.

The American auto companies have no one to blame but themselves. The
unions KILLED the auto industry in this country. It's only a matter of
time, strapped with pensions, medical costs, that are IMPOSSIBLE
numbers to reconcile. Why didn't the American makers come up with a
vehicle that gives us 25MPG on the road, and 35MPG on the highway?? Of
their own volition, I'm talking.
Then they would have sold more cars than the Japanese. It's still not
too late.

Anyway, keep on voting for Barack Obama, and we're going socialist
anyway, guys, he said today that if Europe doesn't like it, maybe we
should be eating less and stop driving those SUV's.
He's going to send us to re-education camps, just like the commies
did. Far fetched? You bet it isn't.

[j***@hotmail.com]

I agree that GM built poor quality cars decades ago. Their current
turnaround isn't smooth sailing either. But how do you compare 1970's
GM cars to 2008 Toyotas?

May 1, 2008
GM Reports 260,922 Deliveries in April

* Retail Car Sales Up 6 Percent
* Chevrolet Car Retail Sales Up 24 Percent Led By a 147 Percent
Increase in Malibu, 17 Percent Rise in Cobalt, 13 Percent Increase in
Aveo and 8 Percent Hike in Impala Sales
* Pontiac Retail Car Sales Up 6 Percent With a 39 Percent Increase
in Vibe, 3 Percent Climb in G5 and G6 Sales
* Buick Retail Trucks Up 32 Percent Led By 4,000 Enclave Crossover
Sales

Chevrolet Malibu total sales were up 29 percent with retail sales up
147 percent, Aveo sales were up 14 percent total and 13 percent
retail, and Cobalt sales were up 16 percent total and 17 percent
retail. Pontiac Vibe total sales were up 36 percent and retail sales
were up 39 percent compared with April 2007. Saturn Aura was up 19
percent total and 16 percent retail, and the Astra had its fourth
consecutive month of increasing sales with more than 900 vehicles
sold. In the luxury car segment, the award-winning Cadillac CTS saw
total sales increase 8 percent with a strong retail increase of 12
percent.

GM's popular crossover Buick Enclave, GMC Acadia and Saturn Outlook
together accounted for nearly 13,000 retail vehicle sales in the
month, an increase of 7 percent compared with the same month last
year. There were more than 6,600 Acadia , 4,000 Enclave and 2,300
Outlook retail sales. The Saturn Vue had a total sales increase of
about 600 vehicles compared with April 2007.

“Our sales performance in mid-cars and crossovers shows the power of
new products to attract consumers – even in a tough market,” LaNeve
added. “So as the mix shifts from trucks to cars, we're ready in our
dealers' showrooms with vehicles that provide industry-leading value,
great fuel economy and the best warranty coverage of any full-line
automaker.”

Post by Gardis
Dear All,
I read the discussion about GM vs. Toyota. First of all, the way the
Japanese infiltrated our market goes back to the 1970's. Little by
little, they started building cars that were BETTER than the American
models. I remember we had Pontiac LeMans 1966 with a V8 engine. That
car, when you stepped on the gas, the engine would conk out. Have you
ever heard a Toyota doing that?
Toyota makes one of the finest cars in the world. Their cars are much
more gas efficient than the American models also. Compare the RX to a
Ford Explorer, and you tell me which one gets thebetter gas mileage.
The American auto companies have no one to blame but themselves. The
unions KILLED the auto industry in this country. It's only a matter of
time, strapped with pensions, medical costs, that are IMPOSSIBLE
numbers to reconcile. Why didn't the American makers come up with a
vehicle that gives us 25MPG on the road, and 35MPG on the highway?? Of
their own volition, I'm talking.
Then they would have sold more cars than the Japanese. It's still not
too late.
Anyway, keep on voting for Barack Obama, and we're going socialist
anyway, guys, he said today that if Europe doesn't like it, maybe we
should be eating less and stop driving those SUV's.
He's going to send us to re-education camps, just like the commies
did. Far fetched? You bet it isn't.