Something rotten here...

[Hachiroku ハチロク]

A 68 year old woman ran her car through a brick and steel wall, into a
laundromat, and damaged the wall and 5 or 6 washing machines, you know,
the big industrial ones...

She was sneaking up on a parking space when all of a sudden the car
accelerated and crashed through the wall and the washing machines.

She was driving a Camry. The accident has been attributed by the media to
a 'sticking accelerator'.

Um, how FAST are you driving when pulling into a parking space? Fast
enough to crash through a brick wall?

If you are, you probably shouldn't be driving.

I'm willing to bet this is just a good old fashioned case of "Wrong
Pedal", but since it's a Camry it must be the sticking accelerator.
I wonder how many other people have gotten themselves into trouble and
blamed it on a sticking accelerator?

Gee...I have to go to Vermont next week. When I get pulled over at 90 in
my Scion, can I tell the cop it was my "sticking accelerator"?

[Conscience]

Post by Hachiroku ハチロク
Gee...I have to go to Vermont next week. When I get pulled over at 90 in
my Scion, can I tell the cop it was my "sticking accelerator"?

Perfect!

[Hachiroku ハチロク]

Post by Conscience

Post by Hachiroku ハチロク
Gee...I have to go to Vermont next week. When I get pulled over at 90 in
my Scion, can I tell the cop it was my "sticking accelerator"?

Perfect!

Highest I hit so far was 120. How fast do you think a sticking accelerator
is good for?

Sure glad I don't own a Lexus. When I do runs to find the top speed, I
like to do it MYSELF!!

[Conscience]

Post by Hachiroku ハチロク

Post by Conscience

Post by Hachiroku ハチロク
Gee...I have to go to Vermont next week. When I get pulled over at 90 in
my Scion, can I tell the cop it was my "sticking accelerator"?

Perfect!

Highest I hit so far was 120. How fast do you think a sticking accelerator
is good for?
Sure glad I don't own a Lexus. When I do runs to find the top speed, I
like to do it MYSELF!!

I'd say 130 would be a fair level. "Officer, I panicked. It stuck. Really!"

[Hachiroku ハチロク]

Post by Conscience

Post by Hachiroku ハチロク

Post by Conscience

Post by Hachiroku ハチロク
Gee...I have to go to Vermont next week. When I get pulled over at 90
in my Scion, can I tell the cop it was my "sticking accelerator"?

Perfect!

Highest I hit so far was 120. How fast do you think a sticking
accelerator is good for?
Sure glad I don't own a Lexus. When I do runs to find the top speed, I
like to do it MYSELF!!

I'd say 130 would be a fair level. "Officer, I panicked. It stuck.
Really!"

Had my '85 "Hachiroku" up to 130. Probably had a little more to go, but
the front felt like it was lifting so I backed down to 125 and stayed
there for a while...

Young and invincible then...

I bet the Scion could get there easily.

[fred]

Post by Hachiroku ハチロク

Post by Conscience

Post by Hachiroku ハチロク
Gee...I have to go to Vermont next week. When I get pulled over at
90 in my Scion, can I tell the cop it was my "sticking accelerator"?

Perfect!

Highest I hit so far was 120. How fast do you think a sticking
accelerator is good for?
Sure glad I don't own a Lexus. When I do runs to find the top speed, I
like to do it MYSELF!!

The all time best has to be that scene in "The World's Fastest Indian".

[Don Stauffer]

Post by Hachiroku ハチロク
A 68 year old woman ran her car through a brick and steel wall, into a
laundromat, and damaged the wall and 5 or 6 washing machines, you know,
the big industrial ones...
She was sneaking up on a parking space when all of a sudden the car
accelerated and crashed through the wall and the washing machines.
She was driving a Camry. The accident has been attributed by the media to
a 'sticking accelerator'.
Um, how FAST are you driving when pulling into a parking space? Fast
enough to crash through a brick wall?

I noticed this too. Sticking throttle would not account for
acceleration. Maintaining speed when you slow down, sure, but not rapid
unintended acceleration.

I have had three cars that have had sticking accelerators (well, two
sticking and one failure of the carb return spring). Two were stick
shift, easy enough to react to, it is almost instinctive to declutch.
Now that both of our cars are automatic, we'll see how I react the next
time it happens :-(

[Hachiroku ハチロク]

Post by Don Stauffer

Post by Hachiroku ハチロク
A 68 year old woman ran her car through a brick and steel wall, into a
laundromat, and damaged the wall and 5 or 6 washing machines, you know,
the big industrial ones...
She was sneaking up on a parking space when all of a sudden the car
accelerated and crashed through the wall and the washing machines.
She was driving a Camry. The accident has been attributed by the media to
a 'sticking accelerator'.
Um, how FAST are you driving when pulling into a parking space? Fast
enough to crash through a brick wall?

I noticed this too. Sticking throttle would not account for
acceleration. Maintaining speed when you slow down, sure, but not rapid
unintended acceleration.
I have had three cars that have had sticking accelerators (well, two
sticking and one failure of the carb return spring). Two were stick
shift, easy enough to react to, it is almost instinctive to declutch.
Now that both of our cars are automatic, we'll see how I react the next
time it happens :-(

Slap it into neutral. NTHSA and Toyota both say, "Let the engine rev until
safe to turn it off."

[Steve]

Post by Don Stauffer

Post by Hachiroku ハチロク
A 68 year old woman ran her car through a brick and steel wall, into a
laundromat, and damaged the wall and 5 or 6 washing machines, you know,
the big industrial ones...
She was sneaking up on a parking space when all of a sudden the car
accelerated and crashed through the wall and the washing machines.
She was driving a Camry. The accident has been attributed by the media to
a 'sticking accelerator'.
Um, how FAST are you driving when pulling into a parking space? Fast
enough to crash through a brick wall?

I noticed this too. Sticking throttle would not account for
acceleration. Maintaining speed when you slow down, sure, but not rapid
unintended acceleration.

The best I can tell, the root of the problem has never been "sticking"
accelerators. Its erroneous interpretation of the accelerator pedal
position, which can either act like the pedal is "stuck" or it can act
like you're pressing the pedal when you actually are not. Some of the
cases have been unintentional transition to wide-open throttle, which as
I understand it overrides the ability to shift into neutral on some
models. Combine that with having to hold down the "start" button for 4
seconds to actually shut down the engine when the vehicle is in gear,
and you have the current messy situation.

[c***@snyder.on.ca]

Post by Steve

Post by Don Stauffer

Post by Hachiroku ハチロク
A 68 year old woman ran her car through a brick and steel wall, into a
laundromat, and damaged the wall and 5 or 6 washing machines, you know,
the big industrial ones...
She was sneaking up on a parking space when all of a sudden the car
accelerated and crashed through the wall and the washing machines.
She was driving a Camry. The accident has been attributed by the media to
a 'sticking accelerator'.
Um, how FAST are you driving when pulling into a parking space? Fast
enough to crash through a brick wall?

I noticed this too. Sticking throttle would not account for
acceleration. Maintaining speed when you slow down, sure, but not rapid
unintended acceleration.

The best I can tell, the root of the problem has never been "sticking"
accelerators. Its erroneous interpretation of the accelerator pedal
position, which can either act like the pedal is "stuck" or it can act
like you're pressing the pedal when you actually are not. Some of the
cases have been unintentional transition to wide-open throttle, which as
I understand it overrides the ability to shift into neutral on some
models. Combine that with having to hold down the "start" button for 4
seconds to actually shut down the engine when the vehicle is in gear,
and you have the current messy situation.

Don't know what you've been reading or where - but it IS a "stiff"
pedal situation, and not a signal problem, and has NOT resulted in
uncontrolled accelleration, has NOT caused an accident and has NOT
resulted in "transition to full throttle". It is also NOT a widespread
problem. Toyota Canada and CTS (the pedal manufacturer) has reported
"less than a dozen" incidents reported. Zero accidents. ZERO injuries,
and ZERO deaths. They recalled the vehicles because the POSSIBILITY of
the pedal sticking causing injury existed.

[ransley]

Post by c***@snyder.on.ca

Post by Steve

Post by Hachiroku ハチロク
A 68 year old woman ran her car through a brick and steel wall, into a
laundromat, and damaged the wall and 5 or 6 washing machines, you know,
the big industrial ones...
She was sneaking up on a parking space when all of a sudden the car
accelerated and crashed through the wall and the washing machines.
She was driving a Camry. The accident has been attributed by the media to
a 'sticking accelerator'.
Um, how FAST are you driving when pulling into a parking space? Fast
enough to crash through a brick wall?

I noticed this too.  Sticking throttle would not account for
acceleration.  Maintaining speed when you slow down, sure, but not rapid
unintended acceleration.

The best I can tell, the root of the problem has never been "sticking"
accelerators. Its erroneous interpretation of the accelerator pedal
position, which can either act like the pedal is "stuck" or it can act
like you're pressing the pedal when you actually are not. Some of the
cases have been unintentional transition to wide-open throttle, which as
I understand it overrides the ability to shift into neutral on some
models. Combine that with having to hold down the "start" button for 4
seconds to actually shut down the engine when the vehicle is in gear,
and you have the current messy situation.

Don't know what you've been reading or where - but it IS a "stiff"
pedal situation, and not a signal problem, and has NOT resulted in
uncontrolled accelleration, has NOT caused an accident and has NOT
resulted in "transition to full throttle". It is also NOT a widespread
problem. Toyota Canada and CTS (the pedal manufacturer) has reported
"less than a dozen" incidents reported. Zero accidents. ZERO injuries,
and ZERO deaths. They recalled the vehicles because the POSSIBILITY of
the pedal sticking causing injury existed.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -

What shit are you smokin stating zero accidents, Zero injuries,
Toyota is trashed, buy a Ford.

[c***@snyder.on.ca]

On Sat, 30 Jan 2010 04:46:38 -0800 (PST), ransley

Post by ransley

Post by c***@snyder.on.ca

Post by Steve

Post by Hachiroku ハチロク
A 68 year old woman ran her car through a brick and steel wall, into a
laundromat, and damaged the wall and 5 or 6 washing machines, you know,
the big industrial ones...
She was sneaking up on a parking space when all of a sudden the car
accelerated and crashed through the wall and the washing machines.
She was driving a Camry. The accident has been attributed by the media to
a 'sticking accelerator'.
Um, how FAST are you driving when pulling into a parking space? Fast
enough to crash through a brick wall?

I noticed this too.  Sticking throttle would not account for
acceleration.  Maintaining speed when you slow down, sure, but not rapid
unintended acceleration.

The best I can tell, the root of the problem has never been "sticking"
accelerators. Its erroneous interpretation of the accelerator pedal
position, which can either act like the pedal is "stuck" or it can act
like you're pressing the pedal when you actually are not. Some of the
cases have been unintentional transition to wide-open throttle, which as
I understand it overrides the ability to shift into neutral on some
models. Combine that with having to hold down the "start" button for 4
seconds to actually shut down the engine when the vehicle is in gear,
and you have the current messy situation.

Don't know what you've been reading or where - but it IS a "stiff"
pedal situation, and not a signal problem, and has NOT resulted in
uncontrolled accelleration, has NOT caused an accident and has NOT
resulted in "transition to full throttle". It is also NOT a widespread
problem. Toyota Canada and CTS (the pedal manufacturer) has reported
"less than a dozen" incidents reported. Zero accidents. ZERO injuries,
and ZERO deaths. They recalled the vehicles because the POSSIBILITY of
the pedal sticking causing injury existed.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -

What shit are you smokin stating zero accidents, Zero injuries,
Toyota is trashed, buy a Ford.

At least in CANADA, there have been no reported and verified accidents
caused by the recalled pedal assembly. Not sure about the carpet issue
- which has been with us for decades, on VIRTUALLY ALL brands of cars.
Put a wrong mat in a car, ar worse yet, TWO mats, one of which is a
bad fit and an "all season" type, and yes, the throttle may jam.
Anyone with half a brain driving in winter conditions KNOWS to be
carefull with floor-mats around the accellerator pedal (and the
clutch, and the brake).

[Tom W. Butts]

Post by Steve
Combine that with having to hold down the "start" button for 4
seconds to actually shut down the engine when the vehicle is in gear,
and you have the current messy situation.

What genius came up with that idea?

Someone tell me what was wrong with the old-fashioned kind of
ignition. Oh yeah, "moving forward". Technology for technology's
sake. BAH!
Can't even blame Toyota (specifically) for this, all automakers are
doing this.

[Hachiroku ハチロク]

Post by Tom W. Butts

Combine that with having to hold down the "start" button for 4 seconds to
actually shut down the engine when the vehicle is in gear, and you have
the current messy situation.

What genius came up with that idea?

Microsoft...

[Sir F. A. Rien]

Post by Hachiroku ハチロク
A 68 year old woman ran her car through a brick and steel wall, into a
laundromat, and damaged the wall and 5 or 6 washing machines, you know,
the big industrial ones...
She was sneaking up on a parking space when all of a sudden the car
accelerated and crashed through the wall and the washing machines.
She was driving a Camry. The accident has been attributed by the media to
a 'sticking accelerator'.
Um, how FAST are you driving when pulling into a parking space? Fast
enough to crash through a brick wall?
If you are, you probably shouldn't be driving.
I'm willing to bet this is just a good old fashioned case of "Wrong
Pedal", but since it's a Camry it must be the sticking accelerator.
I wonder how many other people have gotten themselves into trouble and
blamed it on a sticking accelerator?
Gee...I have to go to Vermont next week. When I get pulled over at 90 in
my Scion, can I tell the cop it was my "sticking accelerator"?

Of course you can, and the trolls "john" and "Tom" will back you up with the
full weight of Ford and GM.

[Hachiroku ハチロク]

Post by Sir F. A. Rien

Post by Hachiroku ハチロク
A 68 year old woman ran her car through a brick and steel wall, into a
laundromat, and damaged the wall and 5 or 6 washing machines, you know,
the big industrial ones...
She was sneaking up on a parking space when all of a sudden the car
accelerated and crashed through the wall and the washing machines.
She was driving a Camry. The accident has been attributed by the media to
a 'sticking accelerator'.
Um, how FAST are you driving when pulling into a parking space? Fast
enough to crash through a brick wall?
If you are, you probably shouldn't be driving.
I'm willing to bet this is just a good old fashioned case of "Wrong
Pedal", but since it's a Camry it must be the sticking accelerator. I
wonder how many other people have gotten themselves into trouble and
blamed it on a sticking accelerator?
Gee...I have to go to Vermont next week. When I get pulled over at 90 in
my Scion, can I tell the cop it was my "sticking accelerator"?

Of course you can, and the trolls "john" and "Tom" will back you up with
the full weight of Ford and GM.

Why thank you, Sir!

Can I get your support, too? ;)

[Scott]

Post by Hachiroku ハチロク
A 68 year old woman ran her car through a brick and steel wall, into a
laundromat, and damaged the wall and 5 or 6 washing machines, you know,
the big industrial ones...
She was sneaking up on a parking space when all of a sudden the car
accelerated and crashed through the wall and the washing machines.
She was driving a Camry. The accident has been attributed by the media to
a 'sticking accelerator'.
Um, how FAST are you driving when pulling into a parking space? Fast
enough to crash through a brick wall?
If you are, you probably shouldn't be driving.
I'm willing to bet this is just a good old fashioned case of "Wrong
Pedal", but since it's a Camry it must be the sticking accelerator.
I wonder how many other people have gotten themselves into trouble and
blamed it on a sticking accelerator?

Right, like my dad always said, you CAIN'T FIX STUPID!!!

People been crashing into things with cars for 80 years, and trying to blame
everybody but themselves. Too bad they are trying to blame Toyota now.



--- news://freenews.netfront.net/ - complaints: ***@netfront.net ---

[Mike Hunter]

However in this instance EVEN Toyota is saying they have a problem with
unintended acceleration, hence the recall and stop sell order. Perhaps you
think Toyota is mistaken?

Post by Scott

Post by Hachiroku ハチロク
A 68 year old woman ran her car through a brick and steel wall, into a
laundromat, and damaged the wall and 5 or 6 washing machines, you know,
the big industrial ones...
She was sneaking up on a parking space when all of a sudden the car
accelerated and crashed through the wall and the washing machines.
She was driving a Camry. The accident has been attributed by the media to
a 'sticking accelerator'.
Um, how FAST are you driving when pulling into a parking space? Fast
enough to crash through a brick wall?
If you are, you probably shouldn't be driving.
I'm willing to bet this is just a good old fashioned case of "Wrong
Pedal", but since it's a Camry it must be the sticking accelerator.
I wonder how many other people have gotten themselves into trouble and
blamed it on a sticking accelerator?

Right, like my dad always said, you CAIN'T FIX STUPID!!!
People been crashing into things with cars for 80 years, and trying to blame
everybody but themselves. Too bad they are trying to blame Toyota now.

[ACAR]

Post by Mike Hunter
However in this instance EVEN Toyota is saying they have a problem with
unintended acceleration, hence the recall and stop sell order.   Perhaps you
think Toyota is mistaken?

No, I think Toyota was given no choice in the matter by the US Govt.

[Hachiroku ハチロク]

Post by Mike Hunter
However in this instance EVEN Toyota is saying they have a problem with
unintended acceleration, hence the recall and stop sell order. Perhaps
you think Toyota is mistaken?

It's not 'unintended acceleration', it's a condition where the throttle
does not return to idle.

Slight difference. You have to have the car up to speed and then it sticks
there. If she was going fast enough entering a parking space to crash
through a wall, she should have taken the bus in the first place.

[c***@snyder.on.ca]

Post by Hachiroku ハチロク

Post by Mike Hunter
However in this instance EVEN Toyota is saying they have a problem with
unintended acceleration, hence the recall and stop sell order. Perhaps
you think Toyota is mistaken?

It's not 'unintended acceleration', it's a condition where the throttle
does not return to idle.
Slight difference. You have to have the car up to speed and then it sticks
there. If she was going fast enough entering a parking space to crash
through a wall, she should have taken the bus in the first place.

Both Toyota and CTS, the manufacturers of the pedal in question have
stated there are a dozen or less reported incidents of the pedal
sticking, resulting in ZERO accidents, ZERO injuries, and ZERO deaths,

The carpet issue is TOTALLY separate from this issue.

[Desertphile]

On Fri, 29 Jan 2010 12:24:25 -0500, Hachiroku ????

Post by Hachiroku ハチロク

Post by Mike Hunter
However in this instance EVEN Toyota is saying they have a problem with
unintended acceleration, hence the recall and stop sell order. Perhaps
you think Toyota is mistaken?

It's not 'unintended acceleration', it's a condition where the throttle
does not return to idle.
Slight difference. You have to have the car up to speed and then it sticks
there. If she was going fast enough entering a parking space to crash
through a wall, she should have taken the bus in the first place.

Has there been a survey comparing these mysterious accelerations
events and the age of the vehicle operators?

[Hachiroku ハチロク]

Post by Hachiroku ハチロク

Post by Mike Hunter
However in this instance EVEN Toyota is saying they have a problem
with unintended acceleration, hence the recall and stop sell order.
Perhaps you think Toyota is mistaken?

It's not 'unintended acceleration', it's a condition where the throttle
does not return to idle.
Slight difference. You have to have the car up to speed and then it
sticks there. If she was going fast enough entering a parking space to
crash through a wall, she should have taken the bus in the first place.

Has there been a survey comparing these mysterious accelerations events
and the age of the vehicle operators?

Well, I know the one the AP is championing as being afraid of his Corolla
is 30. He's afraid to drive the car.

Here's the deal. If the problem is caused by condensation causing the
throttle to stick...

Loading Image...

Followed by GM rust penetrant and heat riser lubricant.

Honestly, the US is supposed to be the greatest country on Earth, and
we're letting a sticky accelerator cause nervous breakdowns?

[Mike Hunter]

You forget to mention the injuries and DEATHS

Post by Hachiroku ハチロク

Post by Hachiroku ハチロク

Post by Mike Hunter
However in this instance EVEN Toyota is saying they have a problem
with unintended acceleration, hence the recall and stop sell order.
Perhaps you think Toyota is mistaken?

It's not 'unintended acceleration', it's a condition where the throttle
does not return to idle.
Slight difference. You have to have the car up to speed and then it
sticks there. If she was going fast enough entering a parking space to
crash through a wall, she should have taken the bus in the first place.

Has there been a survey comparing these mysterious accelerations events
and the age of the vehicle operators?

Well, I know the one the AP is championing as being afraid of his Corolla
is 30. He's afraid to drive the car.
Here's the deal. If the problem is caused by condensation causing the
throttle to stick...
http://www.fishgame.com/Data/449px-Envase_WD-40%282%29.jpg
Followed by GM rust penetrant and heat riser lubricant.
Honestly, the US is supposed to be the greatest country on Earth, and
we're letting a sticky accelerator cause nervous breakdowns?

[c***@snyder.on.ca]

On Sat, 30 Jan 2010 13:47:11 -0500, "Mike Hunter"

Post by Mike Hunter
You forget to mention the injuries and DEATHS

Post by Hachiroku ハチロク

Post by Hachiroku ハチロク

Post by Mike Hunter
However in this instance EVEN Toyota is saying they have a problem
with unintended acceleration, hence the recall and stop sell order.
Perhaps you think Toyota is mistaken?

It's not 'unintended acceleration', it's a condition where the throttle
does not return to idle.
Slight difference. You have to have the car up to speed and then it
sticks there. If she was going fast enough entering a parking space to
crash through a wall, she should have taken the bus in the first place.

Has there been a survey comparing these mysterious accelerations events
and the age of the vehicle operators?

Well, I know the one the AP is championing as being afraid of his Corolla
is 30. He's afraid to drive the car.
Here's the deal. If the problem is caused by condensation causing the
throttle to stick...
http://www.fishgame.com/Data/449px-Envase_WD-40%282%29.jpg
Followed by GM rust penetrant and heat riser lubricant.
Honestly, the US is supposed to be the greatest country on Earth, and
we're letting a sticky accelerator cause nervous breakdowns?

No good on Nylon and quite a few other plastice - either WD40 or Heat
Rizer penetrant. It is a PLASATICS issue

[Kevin]

On Fri, 29 Jan 2010 11:55:02 -0800, "Scott" <***@nowhere.com> wrote:

Search google for Kevin Haggerty's account. He was able to bring his
car into the dealership while it was having the problem and the dealer
confirmed that the pedal wasn't pushed down. The account here:
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/toyota-driver-abc-news-videos-helped-save-life/story?id=9618954&page=2
says that he had taken this car into the dealership previously for the
same problem. I suspect that this incident was the reason for the
massive recalls.

It's kinda hard to blame the driver when the car is sitting in the lot
with the engine revving and nobody in it. Of course that won't keep
the back seat experts from blaming it on everyone except toyota.

Post by Scott

Post by Hachiroku ハチロク
A 68 year old woman ran her car through a brick and steel wall, into a
laundromat, and damaged the wall and 5 or 6 washing machines, you know,
the big industrial ones...
She was sneaking up on a parking space when all of a sudden the car
accelerated and crashed through the wall and the washing machines.
She was driving a Camry. The accident has been attributed by the media to
a 'sticking accelerator'.
Um, how FAST are you driving when pulling into a parking space? Fast
enough to crash through a brick wall?
If you are, you probably shouldn't be driving.
I'm willing to bet this is just a good old fashioned case of "Wrong
Pedal", but since it's a Camry it must be the sticking accelerator.
I wonder how many other people have gotten themselves into trouble and
blamed it on a sticking accelerator?

Right, like my dad always said, you CAIN'T FIX STUPID!!!
People been crashing into things with cars for 80 years, and trying to blame
everybody but themselves. Too bad they are trying to blame Toyota now.

[ransley]

Post by Hachiroku ハチロク
A 68 year old woman ran her car through a brick and steel wall, into a
laundromat, and damaged the wall and 5 or 6 washing machines, you know,
the big industrial ones...
She was sneaking up on a parking space when all of a sudden the car
accelerated and crashed through the wall and the washing machines.
She was driving a Camry. The accident has been attributed by the media to
a 'sticking accelerator'.
Um, how FAST are you driving when pulling into a parking space? Fast
enough to crash through a brick wall?
If you are, you probably shouldn't be driving.
I'm willing to bet this is just a good old fashioned case of "Wrong
Pedal", but since it's a Camry it must be the sticking accelerator.
I wonder how many other people have gotten themselves into trouble and
blamed it on a sticking accelerator?
Gee...I have to go to Vermont next week. When I get pulled over at 90 in
my Scion, can I tell the cop it was my "sticking accelerator"?

all toyota acidents are now the cars fault, it keeps you rates lower.

[fred]

Post by ransley

Post by Hachiroku ハチロク
Gee...I have to go to Vermont next week. When I get pulled over at 90
in my Scion, can I tell the cop it was my "sticking accelerator"?

all toyota acidents are now the cars fault, it keeps you rates lower.

Nonsence. No insurance company is going to be conned that easily. People
may *try*, but they won't get anywhere.

[Tom W. Butts]

On Fri, 29 Jan 2010 08:58:58 -0500,

Post by Hachiroku ハチロク
Gee...I have to go to Vermont next week. When I get pulled over at 90 in
my Scion, can I tell the cop it was my "sticking accelerator"?

A Scion can do 90?

[Hachiroku ハチロク]

Post by Tom W. Butts
On Fri, 29 Jan 2010 08:58:58 -0500,

Post by Hachiroku ハチロク
Gee...I have to go to Vermont next week. When I get pulled over at 90 in
my Scion, can I tell the cop it was my "sticking accelerator"?

A Scion can do 90?

120 so far. Had plenty more to go.

I'm not as fearless as I was 24 years ago when I had my Corolla GTS up to
130.

[Mike Hunter]

Your full of crap the Scion has a 105 speed limiter, because of its low
rated tires
.

Post by Hachiroku ハチロク

Post by Tom W. Butts
On Fri, 29 Jan 2010 08:58:58 -0500,

Post by Hachiroku ハチロク
Gee...I have to go to Vermont next week. When I get pulled over at 90 in
my Scion, can I tell the cop it was my "sticking accelerator"?

A Scion can do 90?

120 so far. Had plenty more to go.
I'm not as fearless as I was 24 years ago when I had my Corolla GTS up to
130.

[Conscience]

Post by Mike Hunter
Your full of crap the Scion has a 105 speed limiter, because of its low
rated tires.

Is that so?

[Hachiroku ハチロク]

Post by Mike Hunter
Your full of crap the Scion has a 105 speed limiter, because of its low
rated tires

Um, WRONG:

Bridgestone® Brand Potenza® RE92 Tires Are Original Equipment On All-New
Scion tC Sports Coupe

NASHVILLE, Tenn. (September 27, 2004) – Bridgestone® brand Potenza®
RE92 high performance tires are original equipment on the sleek new Scion
tC sports coupe.

The Bridgestone Potenza RE92 tire in size 215/45ZR17 carries a Z-speed
rating and a UTQG rating of 160 for treadwear, A for traction and A for
temperature.




When Z-speed rated tires were first introduced, they were thought to
reflect the highest tire speed rating that would ever be required, in
excess of 240 km/h or 149 mph.

Post by Mike Hunter
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Post by Hachiroku ハチロク

Post by Tom W. Butts
On Fri, 29 Jan 2010 08:58:58 -0500,

Post by Hachiroku ハチロク
Gee...I have to go to Vermont next week. When I get pulled over at 90
in my Scion, can I tell the cop it was my "sticking accelerator"?

A Scion can do 90?

120 so far. Had plenty more to go.
I'm not as fearless as I was 24 years ago when I had my Corolla GTS up
to 130.

[Hachiroku ハチロク]

Post by Mike Hunter
Your full of crap the Scion has a 105 speed limiter, because of its low
rated tires
.

Post by Hachiroku ハチロク

Post by Tom W. Butts
On Fri, 29 Jan 2010 08:58:58 -0500,

Post by Hachiroku ハチロク
Gee...I have to go to Vermont next week. When I get pulled over at 90
in my Scion, can I tell the cop it was my "sticking accelerator"?

A Scion can do 90?

120 so far. Had plenty more to go.
I'm not as fearless as I was 24 years ago when I had my Corolla GTS up
to 130.

Japanese cars in Japa are limited to 180kpH, or ~112MPH, by law, for Japan
only.

The rest of us? Woooo Hoooo. I can tell you my GTS wasn't limited to
112MPH, only by what the engine would top out at.

[dick blisters]

Post by Hachiroku ハチロク

Post by Tom W. Butts
A Scion can do 90?

120 so far. Had plenty more to go.
I'm not as fearless as I was 24 years ago when I had my Corolla GTS up to
130.

Had my 89 Toyota truck up to 95 mph on I 35 passing a couple of semis in
November. It's the V6.

I told Bob in the service dept at Funks about it and he said it should
handle that pretty good. It was bought new in 1988 from Funks. They've been
servicing it ever since.

When I arrived home from my most recent trip of 835 miles or 1344
kilometers, I had to add 3/4 liter of oil and that's running about 15 mph
above legal posted limit.

Just a bit of rust in front of the driver side rear wheel well and a bit
worn in the headliner where I poked a hole. The truck should last me a few
more good years.

[Hachiroku ハチロク]

Post by dick blisters
Had my 89 Toyota truck up to 95 mph on I 35 passing a couple of semis in
November. It's the V6.

1989 had the venerable 22RE engine. I took the engine from a '91 truck and
replaced the ailing 22RE in an '85 Celica GTS and then had some fun with
some kids that thought they were all that at 125 on the interstate.

They won't be bothering older guys driving older Toyotas for a while...

[Mike Hunter]

It isn't only older guys that buy Toyotas. Demographics for the brand says
nearly half of Toyota buyer are woman.

Post by Hachiroku ハチロク

Post by dick blisters
Had my 89 Toyota truck up to 95 mph on I 35 passing a couple of semis in
November. It's the V6.

1989 had the venerable 22RE engine. I took the engine from a '91 truck and
replaced the ailing 22RE in an '85 Celica GTS and then had some fun with
some kids that thought they were all that at 125 on the interstate.
They won't be bothering older guys driving older Toyotas for a while...

[Hachiroku ハチロク]

Post by Mike Hunter
It isn't only older guys that buy Toyotas. Demographics for the brand says
nearly half of Toyota buyer are woman.

That was about 7 years ago in an 18 year old car. These guys were driving
some ricer and thought they would have a little 'fun' at a stop light.
12 miles later at 115-125 MPH, I don't think they'll ever bother anyone
again...

Post by Mike Hunter

Post by Hachiroku ハチロク

Post by dick blisters
Had my 89 Toyota truck up to 95 mph on I 35 passing a couple of semis in
November. It's the V6.

1989 had the venerable 22RE engine. I took the engine from a '91 truck and
replaced the ailing 22RE in an '85 Celica GTS and then had some fun with
some kids that thought they were all that at 125 on the interstate.
They won't be bothering older guys driving older Toyotas for a while...

[c***@snyder.on.ca]

Post by Hachiroku ハチロク

Post by Mike Hunter
It isn't only older guys that buy Toyotas. Demographics for the brand says
nearly half of Toyota buyer are woman.

That was about 7 years ago in an 18 year old car. These guys were driving
some ricer and thought they would have a little 'fun' at a stop light.
12 miles later at 115-125 MPH, I don't think they'll ever bother anyone
again...

Yea, I had somewhat the same experience when driving my '53 Coronet
station wagon back from PEI to Ontario in '72. Guy with a Nova 350SS
must have thought something was not quite as it appeared - he kept
waiting for me to catch up and pas on the 20,then flooring it. I
finally kicked the little Hemi out of overdrive and put the loud pedal
down... He stayed behind me all the way to Montreal.

Post by Hachiroku ハチロク

Post by Mike Hunter

Post by Hachiroku ハチロク

Post by dick blisters
Had my 89 Toyota truck up to 95 mph on I 35 passing a couple of semis in
November. It's the V6.

1989 had the venerable 22RE engine. I took the engine from a '91 truck and
replaced the ailing 22RE in an '85 Celica GTS and then had some fun with
some kids that thought they were all that at 125 on the interstate.
They won't be bothering older guys driving older Toyotas for a while...

[aemeijers]

Post by c***@snyder.on.ca

Post by Hachiroku ハチロク

Post by Mike Hunter
It isn't only older guys that buy Toyotas. Demographics for the brand says
nearly half of Toyota buyer are woman.

That was about 7 years ago in an 18 year old car. These guys were driving
some ricer and thought they would have a little 'fun' at a stop light.
12 miles later at 115-125 MPH, I don't think they'll ever bother anyone
again...

Yea, I had somewhat the same experience when driving my '53 Coronet
station wagon back from PEI to Ontario in '72. Guy with a Nova 350SS
must have thought something was not quite as it appeared - he kept
waiting for me to catch up and pas on the 20,then flooring it. I
finally kicked the little Hemi out of overdrive and put the loud pedal
down... He stayed behind me all the way to Montreal.

Chuckle. Yeah, for a few years I had a fleet-special 78 Fairmont wagon,
till the cheap steel in the body started rusting away. Unlike 90% of the
Fairmont wagons, it did not have the 4 or the straight 6, it had the
same 302 and tranny as the Mustang LX 5.0, which was also off the Fox
platform. Same wheelbase and suspension, too. I had the occasional kid
who thought their hot-rod or riced-out econocar would have no trouble
outrunning it. No idea what the top speed was- that was the era of 85mph
speedometers, but it was still pulling hard at that point. Probably not
as fast as the 429 full-size wagons I drove as a kid, but handled a LOT
better. That thing is the only car from my past that I really miss
(other than the 17mpg if I drove it with a light foot, of course.)

If I hit the lotto or something, I'd probably try to find a clean shell
from the southwest, and have somebody build me one just like it. I miss
RWD V-8s.

--
aem sends...

[Hachiroku ハチロク]

Post by aemeijers

Post by c***@snyder.on.ca
Yea, I had somewhat the same experience when driving my '53 Coronet
station wagon back from PEI to Ontario in '72. Guy with a Nova 350SS
must have thought something was not quite as it appeared - he kept
waiting for me to catch up and pas on the 20,then flooring it. I
finally kicked the little Hemi out of overdrive and put the loud pedal
down... He stayed behind me all the way to Montreal.

Chuckle. Yeah, for a few years I had a fleet-special 78 Fairmont wagon,
till the cheap steel in the body started rusting away. Unlike 90% of the
Fairmont wagons, it did not have the 4 or the straight 6, it had the same
302 and tranny as the Mustang LX 5.0

LOL! I remember these! Yeah, they were hellatious!

A friend had a Monza 2+2 with the 350!
Again, the speedo only went to 85. I think I buried that in about 8
seconds, and God knows how fast we were going when I finally let off.
There's never a cop with a radar gun when you WANT one!

[dick blisters]

Post by Hachiroku ハチロク

Post by Tom W. Butts
A Scion can do 90?

120 so far. Had plenty more to go.
I'm not as fearless as I was 24 years ago when I had my Corolla GTS up to
130.

Had my 89 Toyota truck up to 95 mph on I 35 passing a couple of semis in
November. It's the V6 with extended cab.

I told Bob in the service dept at Funks about it and he said it should
handle that pretty good. It was bought new in 1988 from Funks. They've been
servicing it ever since.

When I arrived home from my most recent trip of 835 miles or 1344
kilometers, I had to add 3/4 liter of oil and that's running about 15 mph
above legal posted limit.

Just a bit of rust in front of the driver side rear wheel well and a bit
worn in the headliner where I poked a hole. The truck should last me a few
more good years.

[Mike Hunter]

Sure, down a mountain.

Jay Leno said the CHIP clocked a Prius doing 48 MPH, when the throttle stuck

Post by Tom W. Butts
On Fri, 29 Jan 2010 08:58:58 -0500,

Post by Hachiroku ハチロク
Gee...I have to go to Vermont next week. When I get pulled over at 90 in
my Scion, can I tell the cop it was my "sticking accelerator"?

A Scion can do 90?