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GIga
2008-05-30 01:58:24 UTC
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Here's a strange article on Lexus... someone who likes the brand!



Why Lexus Can't Be Beat

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Everyone knows that this industry is about Product. That is the focus of everything. There are, of course, a few other words beginning with P that are exceedingly relevant. Like Profit. And-to a lesser extent, and to the degree that it is lesser, to the woe of companies who are looking to achieve good things related to Product and Profit-Process.

That is, if you don't design them well and build them right (i.e., Process them), then your Product is highly unlikely to provide you with Profit.

Another P word that is key is People. As in having People working with you who share your approach in accomplishing the Process of creating great Products that will bring you Profits.

Let me stop there before this becomes exceedingly corny and simply recap: Product. Profit. Process. People. And not necessarily in that order.

It seems to me that there is one other word that characterizes one aspect of many people in America: More. This is the Land of the Big Gulp. This is the place where we expect the Dow Jones Average to go ever higher. This is where when a movie grosses $11-million on its opening weekend it is determined to be soft, if not a flop-which may have something to do with the fact that in the producer's pursuit of More, the film cost $150-million to make. This is the land where people want bigger SUVs and regardless of the product, more horsepower under the hood. And speaking of vehicles: have you driven by a new subdivision lately and noticed that the two-car garage is passé-that it's all about three?

One of the metrics that is often cited is new car sales. Every auto manufacturer wants to sell more cars. More cars, of course, means more money. Maybe. The certainty is predicated on whether the Ps are in order. Otherwise, it can mean nothing but a fundamentally meaningless number.

The first model year for Lexus was 1990. The brand started with two cars. The LS 400 and the ES 250. Now it has a range of models. And it is achieving tremendous things in the market. For one thing, the LS 430, which is the progeny of the LS 400, is outselling the Mercedes S-Class and the BMW 7-Series; it accounts for almost a third of the prestige luxury segment. The SC 430 hardtop convertible is sold out until April 2002. According to Denny Clements, group vice president and general manager of Lexus, speaking in late July of this year, "Our sales have never been better. Though June, they are tracking 17% ahead of last year."

Lexus, of course, is a division of Toyota. And when you're talking People and Process as applied to Product, there is no better methodology than the Toyota Production System, a system that allows Toyota to make Profit.

But here's the thing. Clements said something, the likes of which I have never heard an executive say before, which convinces me that Lexus will be preeminent in the market. When asked about sales growth and the importance of being number one in terms of sales volume in the market, he responded, "Our goal is to be number one in customer satisfaction." He added, "If we bring the right product to the market and take care of the customer and then are number one as a result, then we've achieved something."

Clements explained that at Lexus they are looking very carefully at how many cars each of its dealers sells: "We want to make sure that our dealers have the ability to take care of our customers."

He isn't hell-bent for sales numbers. He's concerned with getting and keeping customers. Sure, it's fine to sell a whole lot of Whatevermobiles, but what about when the customers have to take them in for even routine service and discover that (a) they can't get an appointment for quite a while or (b) the dealer doesn't take appointments and so the customer has to wait in a long line on a Monday morning? How will the customers feel about the company that brought them the Whatevermobile?

And let's face it: There are a whole lot of brands not named "Lexus" that are having recalls the way Elizabeth Taylor used to have weddings: How do the customers feel about that-and the lines or the wait?

Some might argue that Lexus is different. Which is exactly the point. The company is different. It cares about putting out great Product. But it also cares about the People who buy it. This isn't about having cappuccino in the service department waiting rooms. It's about building vehicles that are outstanding Products, built with a good Process so that there are Profits-and about caring about the People who build those vehicles and the people who actually spend the money that allows those profits to exist.

That's why Lexus will be unbeatable --by Gary Vasilash, Editor-in-Chief

GIga
Gardis
2008-05-31 00:20:17 UTC
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Post by GIga
Here's a strange article on Lexus... someone who likes the brand!
Why Lexus Can't Be Beat
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Everyone knows that this industry is about Product. That is the focus of everything. There are, of course, a few other words beginning with P that are exceedingly relevant. Like Profit. And-to a lesser extent, and to the degree that it is lesser, to the woe of companies who are looking to achieve good things related to Product and Profit-Process.
That is, if you don't design them well and build them right (i.e., Process them), then your Product is highly unlikely to provide you with Profit.
Another P word that is key is People. As in having People working with you who share your approach in accomplishing the Process of creating great Products that will bring you Profits.
Let me stop there before this becomes exceedingly corny and simply recap: Product. Profit. Process. People. And not necessarily in that order.
It seems to me that there is one other word that characterizes one aspect of many people in America: More. This is the Land of the Big Gulp. This is the place where we expect the Dow Jones Average to go ever higher. This is where when a movie grosses $11-million on its opening weekend it is determined to be soft, if not a flop-which may have something to do with the fact that in the producer's pursuit of More, the film cost $150-million to make. This is the land where people want bigger SUVs and regardless of the product, more horsepower under the hood. And speaking of vehicles: have you driven by a new subdivision lately and noticed that the two-car garage is passé-that it's all about three?
One of the metrics that is often cited is new car sales. Every auto manufacturer wants to sell more cars. More cars, of course, means more money. Maybe. The certainty is predicated on whether the Ps are in order. Otherwise, it can mean nothing but a fundamentally meaningless number.
The first model year for Lexus was 1990. The brand started with two cars. The LS 400 and the ES 250. Now it has a range of models. And it is achieving tremendous things in the market. For one thing, the LS 430, which is the progeny of the LS 400, is outselling the Mercedes S-Class and the BMW 7-Series; it accounts for almost a third of the prestige luxury segment. The SC 430 hardtop convertible is sold out until April 2002. According to Denny Clements, group vice president and general manager of Lexus, speaking in late July of this year, "Our sales have never been better. Though June, they are tracking 17% ahead of last year."
Lexus, of course, is a division of Toyota. And when you're talking People and Process as applied to Product, there is no better methodology than the Toyota Production System, a system that allows Toyota to make Profit.
But here's the thing. Clements said something, the likes of which I have never heard an executive say before, which convinces me that Lexus will be preeminent in the market. When asked about sales growth and the importance of being number one in terms of sales volume in the market, he responded, "Our goal is to be number one in customer satisfaction." He added, "If we bring the right product to the market and take care of the customer and then are number one as a result, then we've achieved something."
Clements explained that at Lexus they are looking very carefully at how many cars each of its dealers sells: "We want to make sure that our dealers have the ability to take care of our customers."
He isn't hell-bent for sales numbers. He's concerned with getting and keeping customers. Sure, it's fine to sell a whole lot of Whatevermobiles, but what about when the customers have to take them in for even routine service and discover that (a) they can't get an appointment for quite a while or (b) the dealer doesn't take appointments and so the customer has to wait in a long line on a Monday morning? How will the customers feel about the company that brought them the Whatevermobile?
And let's face it: There are a whole lot of brands not named "Lexus" that are having recalls the way Elizabeth Taylor used to have weddings: How do the customers feel about that-and the lines or the wait?
Some might argue that Lexus is different. Which is exactly the point. The company is different. It cares about putting out great Product. But it also cares about the People who buy it. This isn't about having cappuccino in the service department waiting rooms. It's about building vehicles that are outstanding Products, built with a good Process so that there are Profits-and about caring about the People who build those vehicles and the people who actually spend the money that allows those profits to exist.
That's why Lexus will be unbeatable --by Gary Vasilash, Editor-in-Chief
GIga
Can someone explain to me the warranty period on a Lexus? For
example, BMW has a 6 year warranty, or 100K miles, which ever comes
first. So, if the car went into service in November 07, the car is
covered bumpber to bumpber until November 2012. I hear Lexus only
gives 3 years? Now on the pre owned, you pick up the remaining
warranty on the BMW. If the car has another 3 years to go, or 4 years
to go, or 2 years to go, that's waht you get. They don't extend it or
shorten it.

::Gardis
DaveW
2008-05-31 01:15:34 UTC
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Post by Gardis
Can someone explain to me the warranty period on a Lexus? For
example, BMW has a 6 year warranty, or 100K miles, which ever comes
first. So, if the car went into service in November 07, the car is
covered bumpber to bumpber until November 2012. I hear Lexus only
gives 3 years? Now on the pre owned, you pick up the remaining
warranty on the BMW. If the car has another 3 years to go, or 4 years
to go, or 2 years to go, that's waht you get. They don't extend it or
shorten it.
BMW's warranty period is the same as Lexus - 4 years, 50,000 miles.

It took all of 3 minutes for me to look that up. What you "hear" is
very easy to verify if you care to take the time.
stuart8181
2008-06-02 19:31:53 UTC
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Yes. Great finish but still poor engineering. What most ordinary people look for.
"GIga" <***@b.com> wrote in message news:***@comcast.com...
Here's a strange article on Lexus... someone who likes the brand!



Why Lexus Can't Be Beat

------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Everyone knows that this industry is about Product. That is the focus of everything. There are, of course, a few other words beginning with P that are exceedingly relevant. Like Profit. And-to a lesser extent, and to the degree that it is lesser, to the woe of companies who are looking to achieve good things related to Product and Profit-Process.

That is, if you don't design them well and build them right (i.e., Process them), then your Product is highly unlikely to provide you with Profit.

Another P word that is key is People. As in having People working with you who share your approach in accomplishing the Process of creating great Products that will bring you Profits.

Let me stop there before this becomes exceedingly corny and simply recap: Product. Profit. Process. People. And not necessarily in that order.

It seems to me that there is one other word that characterizes one aspect of many people in America: More. This is the Land of the Big Gulp. This is the place where we expect the Dow Jones Average to go ever higher. This is where when a movie grosses $11-million on its opening weekend it is determined to be soft, if not a flop-which may have something to do with the fact that in the producer's pursuit of More, the film cost $150-million to make. This is the land where people want bigger SUVs and regardless of the product, more horsepower under the hood. And speaking of vehicles: have you driven by a new subdivision lately and noticed that the two-car garage is passé-that it's all about three?

One of the metrics that is often cited is new car sales. Every auto manufacturer wants to sell more cars. More cars, of course, means more money. Maybe. The certainty is predicated on whether the Ps are in order. Otherwise, it can mean nothing but a fundamentally meaningless number.

The first model year for Lexus was 1990. The brand started with two cars. The LS 400 and the ES 250. Now it has a range of models. And it is achieving tremendous things in the market. For one thing, the LS 430, which is the progeny of the LS 400, is outselling the Mercedes S-Class and the BMW 7-Series; it accounts for almost a third of the prestige luxury segment. The SC 430 hardtop convertible is sold out until April 2002. According to Denny Clements, group vice president and general manager of Lexus, speaking in late July of this year, "Our sales have never been better. Though June, they are tracking 17% ahead of last year."

Lexus, of course, is a division of Toyota. And when you're talking People and Process as applied to Product, there is no better methodology than the Toyota Production System, a system that allows Toyota to make Profit.

But here's the thing. Clements said something, the likes of which I have never heard an executive say before, which convinces me that Lexus will be preeminent in the market. When asked about sales growth and the importance of being number one in terms of sales volume in the market, he responded, "Our goal is to be number one in customer satisfaction." He added, "If we bring the right product to the market and take care of the customer and then are number one as a result, then we've achieved something."

Clements explained that at Lexus they are looking very carefully at how many cars each of its dealers sells: "We want to make sure that our dealers have the ability to take care of our customers."

He isn't hell-bent for sales numbers. He's concerned with getting and keeping customers. Sure, it's fine to sell a whole lot of Whatevermobiles, but what about when the customers have to take them in for even routine service and discover that (a) they can't get an appointment for quite a while or (b) the dealer doesn't take appointments and so the customer has to wait in a long line on a Monday morning? How will the customers feel about the company that brought them the Whatevermobile?

And let's face it: There are a whole lot of brands not named "Lexus" that are having recalls the way Elizabeth Taylor used to have weddings: How do the customers feel about that-and the lines or the wait?

Some might argue that Lexus is different. Which is exactly the point. The company is different. It cares about putting out great Product. But it also cares about the People who buy it. This isn't about having cappuccino in the service department waiting rooms. It's about building vehicles that are outstanding Products, built with a good Process so that there are Profits-and about caring about the People who build those vehicles and the people who actually spend the money that allows those profits to exist.

That's why Lexus will be unbeatable --by Gary Vasilash, Editor-in-Chief

GIga
St. John Smythe
2008-06-02 20:20:11 UTC
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Post by stuart8181
Yes. Great finish but still poor engineering. What most ordinary people look for.
Opinions are like belly buttons. Everyone has one, but some are a lot
better formed than others.
--
sjs
DaveW
2008-06-02 21:46:51 UTC
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On Mon, 02 Jun 2008 16:20:11 -0400, "St. John Smythe"
Post by St. John Smythe
Post by stuart8181
Yes. Great finish but still poor engineering. What most ordinary people look for.
Opinions are like belly buttons.
I've always heard them compared to a different orefice...
GIga
2008-06-03 02:34:37 UTC
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And just as a curious thrill seeker, I ask you: What is an example of good engineering? You couldn't seriously think that the crap that MB and BMW pumps out (over priced, under engineered, as reliable as New England weather...) qualifies as good, could you?

What do you driver Mr. Little?

GIga
"stuart8181" <***@comcast.net> wrote in message news:***@comcast.com...
Yes. Great finish but still poor engineering. What most ordinary people look for.
stuart8181
2008-06-05 16:53:26 UTC
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How old are you?
"GIga" <***@b.com> wrote in message news:***@comcast.com...
And just as a curious thrill seeker, I ask you: What is an example of good engineering? You couldn't seriously think that the crap that MB and BMW pumps out (over priced, under engineered, as reliable as New England weather...) qualifies as good, could you?

What do you driver Mr. Little?

GIga
"stuart8181" <***@comcast.net> wrote in message news:***@comcast.com...
Yes. Great finish but still poor engineering. What most ordinary people look for.
GIga
2008-06-06 03:19:54 UTC
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Hey little man. Why the fascination with my age? Are you a pedophile looking for a hook-up? Or are you more into old men who have nothing better to do but troll newsgroups looking for ways to pass the time? Or are you just a jerk who thinks you'll shut me up by asking me how old I am (over, and over again)? Or are you just too stupid to answer a simple question, so you come back with the closer "How old are you?"?

Newsgroup readers: Please vote. I'll get my mommy to help me tally the responses. Once we all agree with what is wrong with Stuart Little (now do you get the "little man" reference?), we can respond to him (or her?) appropriately. I have no doubt I'll hear back from McBrew-jerk and Long Dong, as they always seem to have SOMETHING to add to every conversation (kinda like the old smelly uncle that no one likes, but keeps showing up at family functions!), but their stupidity aside, what do y'all think?

GIga
"stuart8181" <***@comcast.net> wrote in message news:***@comcast.com...
How old are you?
"GIga" <***@b.com> wrote in message news:***@comcast.com...
And just as a curious thrill seeker, I ask you: What is an example of good engineering? You couldn't seriously think that the crap that MB and BMW pumps out (over priced, under engineered, as reliable as New England weather...) qualifies as good, could you?

What do you driver Mr. Little?

GIga
"stuart8181" <***@comcast.net> wrote in message news:***@comcast.com...
Yes. Great finish but still poor engineering. What most ordinary people look for.
St. John Smythe
2008-06-06 10:38:11 UTC
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Post by GIga
Newsgroup readers: Please vote. I'll get my mommy to help me tally the
responses. Once we all agree with what is wrong with Stuart Little (now
do you get the "little man" reference?), we can respond to him (or her?)
appropriately. I have no doubt I'll hear back from McBrew-jerk and Long
Dong, as they always seem to have SOMETHING to add to every conversation
(kinda like the old smelly uncle that no one likes, but keeps showing up
at family functions!), but their stupidity aside, what do y'all think?
I think that life is too short to get into pissing matches on Usenet.
Just sayin'.
--
sjs
GIga
2008-06-06 12:19:34 UTC
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Yeah, I know. This is just kinda "sport" for me. You know, like shooting
fish in a barrel? If nothing else, it's amusing, no?

GIga
Post by GIga
Newsgroup readers: Please vote. I'll get my mommy to help me tally the
responses. Once we all agree with what is wrong with Stuart Little (now
do you get the "little man" reference?), we can respond to him (or her?)
appropriately. I have no doubt I'll hear back from McBrew-jerk and Long
Dong, as they always seem to have SOMETHING to add to every conversation
(kinda like the old smelly uncle that no one likes, but keeps showing up
at family functions!), but their stupidity aside, what do y'all think?
I think that life is too short to get into pissing matches on Usenet. Just
sayin'.
--
sjs
stuart8181
2008-06-06 17:49:09 UTC
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Amusing perhaps for an immature mind.. Grow up...
Post by GIga
Yeah, I know. This is just kinda "sport" for me. You know, like shooting
fish in a barrel? If nothing else, it's amusing, no?
GIga
Post by GIga
Newsgroup readers: Please vote. I'll get my mommy to help me tally the
responses. Once we all agree with what is wrong with Stuart Little (now
do you get the "little man" reference?), we can respond to him (or her?)
appropriately. I have no doubt I'll hear back from McBrew-jerk and Long
Dong, as they always seem to have SOMETHING to add to every
conversation
Post by GIga
Post by GIga
(kinda like the old smelly uncle that no one likes, but keeps showing up
at family functions!), but their stupidity aside, what do y'all think?
I think that life is too short to get into pissing matches on Usenet. Just
sayin'.
--
sjs
GIga
2008-06-07 01:01:29 UTC
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Nanny nanny woo woo!!

Am I making woo angwy?
Post by stuart8181
Amusing perhaps for an immature mind.. Grow up...
Post by GIga
Yeah, I know. This is just kinda "sport" for me. You know, like shooting
fish in a barrel? If nothing else, it's amusing, no?
GIga
Post by St. John Smythe
Post by GIga
Newsgroup readers: Please vote. I'll get my mommy to help me tally the
responses. Once we all agree with what is wrong with Stuart Little
(now
Post by GIga
Post by St. John Smythe
Post by GIga
do you get the "little man" reference?), we can respond to him (or
her?)
Post by GIga
Post by St. John Smythe
Post by GIga
appropriately. I have no doubt I'll hear back from McBrew-jerk and
Long
Post by GIga
Post by St. John Smythe
Post by GIga
Dong, as they always seem to have SOMETHING to add to every
conversation
Post by GIga
Post by St. John Smythe
Post by GIga
(kinda like the old smelly uncle that no one likes, but keeps showing
up
Post by GIga
Post by St. John Smythe
Post by GIga
at family functions!), but their stupidity aside, what do y'all think?
I think that life is too short to get into pissing matches on Usenet.
Just
Post by GIga
Post by St. John Smythe
sayin'.
--
sjs
stuart8181
2008-06-08 16:11:14 UTC
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You just made my point.....
Post by GIga
Nanny nanny woo woo!!
Am I making woo angwy?
Post by stuart8181
Amusing perhaps for an immature mind.. Grow up...
Post by GIga
Yeah, I know. This is just kinda "sport" for me. You know, like shooting
fish in a barrel? If nothing else, it's amusing, no?
GIga
Post by St. John Smythe
Post by GIga
Newsgroup readers: Please vote. I'll get my mommy to help me tally the
responses. Once we all agree with what is wrong with Stuart Little
(now
Post by GIga
Post by St. John Smythe
Post by GIga
do you get the "little man" reference?), we can respond to him (or
her?)
Post by GIga
Post by St. John Smythe
Post by GIga
appropriately. I have no doubt I'll hear back from McBrew-jerk and
Long
Post by GIga
Post by St. John Smythe
Post by GIga
Dong, as they always seem to have SOMETHING to add to every
conversation
Post by GIga
Post by St. John Smythe
Post by GIga
(kinda like the old smelly uncle that no one likes, but keeps showing
up
Post by GIga
Post by St. John Smythe
Post by GIga
at family functions!), but their stupidity aside, what do y'all think?
I think that life is too short to get into pissing matches on Usenet.
Just
Post by GIga
Post by St. John Smythe
sayin'.
--
sjs
GIga
2008-06-09 02:27:20 UTC
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Yes, of course I did. Good to know you think you actually had one.

(Just love the banter. Keep it up Little man!)
Post by stuart8181
You just made my point.....
Post by GIga
Nanny nanny woo woo!!
Am I making woo angwy?
Post by stuart8181
Amusing perhaps for an immature mind.. Grow up...
Post by GIga
Yeah, I know. This is just kinda "sport" for me. You know, like shooting
fish in a barrel? If nothing else, it's amusing, no?
GIga
Post by St. John Smythe
Post by GIga
Newsgroup readers: Please vote. I'll get my mommy to help me tally the
responses. Once we all agree with what is wrong with Stuart Little
(now
Post by GIga
Post by St. John Smythe
Post by GIga
do you get the "little man" reference?), we can respond to him (or
her?)
Post by GIga
Post by St. John Smythe
Post by GIga
appropriately. I have no doubt I'll hear back from McBrew-jerk and
Long
Post by GIga
Post by St. John Smythe
Post by GIga
Dong, as they always seem to have SOMETHING to add to every
conversation
Post by GIga
Post by St. John Smythe
Post by GIga
(kinda like the old smelly uncle that no one likes, but keeps
showing
Post by GIga
Post by stuart8181
up
Post by GIga
Post by St. John Smythe
Post by GIga
at family functions!), but their stupidity aside, what do y'all
think?
Post by GIga
Post by stuart8181
Post by GIga
Post by St. John Smythe
I think that life is too short to get into pissing matches on Usenet.
Just
Post by GIga
Post by St. John Smythe
sayin'.
--
sjs
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