******* MYTH OF TIRE ROTATION...... ***************

[Jakthehammer]

TRUE OR FALSE?

Tire rotation refers to the regular practice of switching the tires...
Purpose: Tire rotation helps to equalize tread wear and is critical to
gain.


ANSWER:

BULLSHIT! TIRES USUALLY LAST 2.5 YRS, NOT 4-YRS.

TIRE COMPANIES WANT TO MAKE THING APPEARS LONGER, THEY ASKED YOU TO
ROTATE. YOU LOSE TRACTIONS. MY ADVICE IS TO KEEP THE DRIVING WHEEL WITH
MORE THREADS, THAT SHOULD BE YOUR CRITICAL CONCERN. ACCIDENT HAPPENS IN
WINTER/RAINING SEASON DUE TO INSUFFICIENT THREAD, NO TRACTION = FLIPPING
OVER THE HILL.....Heehee.........

[TPr]

What a load of rubbish. Is anyone stupid enough to beleive this crap, when
you don't even have a basic grasp of the english language ?

Moron.

[Elliot Richmond]

Post by TPr
What a load of rubbish. Is anyone stupid enough to beleive this crap, when
you don't even have a basic grasp of the english language ?
Moron.

It was a troll. Ignore it.


Elliot Richmond
Itinerant astronomy teacher
Freelance science writer

[z]

Post by TPr
What a load of rubbish. Is anyone stupid enough to beleive this crap, when
you don't even have a basic grasp of the english language ?
Moron.

You're right. ever time i get out of the car and look, my tires aren't
rotating, they're just sitting there. and i'm expected to believe that
they wait until i'm in the car driving instead of watching them, then
they rotate? just to have a joke on me? come on.

[Tegger]

Post by Jakthehammer
TRUE OR FALSE?
Tire rotation refers to the regular practice of switching the tires...
Purpose: Tire rotation helps to equalize tread wear and is critical to
gain.
BULLSHIT! TIRES USUALLY LAST 2.5 YRS, NOT 4-YRS.
TIRE COMPANIES WANT TO MAKE THING APPEARS LONGER, THEY ASKED YOU TO
ROTATE. YOU LOSE TRACTIONS. MY ADVICE IS TO KEEP THE DRIVING WHEEL WITH
MORE THREADS, THAT SHOULD BE YOUR CRITICAL CONCERN. ACCIDENT HAPPENS IN
WINTER/RAINING SEASON DUE TO INSUFFICIENT THREAD, NO TRACTION = FLIPPING
OVER THE HILL.....Heehee.........

You are a very strange person.

[jim beam]

Post by Jakthehammer
TRUE OR FALSE?
Tire rotation refers to the regular practice of switching the tires...
Purpose: Tire rotation helps to equalize tread wear and is critical to
gain.
BULLSHIT! TIRES USUALLY LAST 2.5 YRS, NOT 4-YRS.
TIRE COMPANIES WANT TO MAKE THING APPEARS LONGER, THEY ASKED YOU TO
ROTATE. YOU LOSE TRACTIONS.

freak though you are, you have a point there - you /do/ lose traction.
i don't rotate tires very often for this reason, and if i do, i have to
take it easy until the tires are re-worn back to the correct rotation
and cornering sense.

http://www.mini2.com/forum/2nd-gen-mini-cooper-s/147821-tire-rotation.html

Post by Jakthehammer
MY ADVICE IS TO KEEP THE DRIVING WHEEL WITH
MORE THREADS, THAT SHOULD BE YOUR CRITICAL CONCERN. ACCIDENT HAPPENS IN
WINTER/RAINING SEASON DUE TO INSUFFICIENT THREAD, NO TRACTION = FLIPPING
OVER THE HILL.....Heehee.........

[h***@h-gee.co.uk]

Post by jim beam

Post by Jakthehammer
TRUE OR FALSE?
Tire rotation refers to the regular practice of switching the tires...
Purpose: Tire rotation helps to equalize tread wear and is critical to
gain.
BULLSHIT! TIRES USUALLY LAST 2.5 YRS, NOT 4-YRS.
TIRE COMPANIES WANT TO MAKE THING APPEARS LONGER, THEY ASKED YOU TO
ROTATE. YOU LOSE TRACTIONS.

freak though you are, you have a point there - you /do/ lose traction.
i don't rotate tires very often for this reason, and if i do, i have to
take it easy until the tires are re-worn back to the correct rotation
and cornering sense.
http://www.mini2.com/forum/2nd-gen-mini-cooper-s/147821-tire-rotation.html

Post by Jakthehammer
MY ADVICE IS TO KEEP THE DRIVING WHEEL WITH
MORE THREADS, THAT SHOULD BE YOUR CRITICAL CONCERN. ACCIDENT HAPPENS IN
WINTER/RAINING SEASON DUE TO INSUFFICIENT THREAD, NO TRACTION = FLIPPING
OVER THE HILL.....Heehee.........

On many vehicles now-a-days tire or even tyre rotation is a thing of the past
having been left in a time warp of 1970 ish.

the reason behind this is the move to FWD and the newer train of thought in
fitting different size/width wheels at each end. My new E65 has wider wheels at
the rear than the front I know that BMW isn't the only manufacturers that does
this.

The choice is yours but remember if its a new car the chances are the front
tires (tyres) won't fit the rear rims.

Hugh
--
Sir Hugh of Bognor

The difference between men and boys is the price of their toys.

Intelligence is not knowing the answer but knowing where and how to find it!

Hugh Gundersen
***@h-gee.co.uk
Bognor Regis, W.Sussex, England, UK

[Max]

Post by h***@h-gee.co.uk
the reason behind this is the move to FWD and the newer train of thought in
fitting different size/width wheels at each end. My new E65 has wider wheels at
the rear than the front I know that BMW isn't the only manufacturers that does
this.
The choice is yours but remember if its a new car the chances are the front
tires (tyres) won't fit the rear rims.
Hugh

Not entirely true. Front wheel drive cars wear out the front tires
significantly faster than it's rear tires. You'll be replacing the
front tires at nearly a ratio of 2:1 in comparison to the rear tires.

The reverse holds true for rear wheel cars (of which many cars are
still made that way).

Rotate them and you'll get longer life out of all four tires.
Otherwise, you'll be constantly changing a set of tires. And many
manufacturers don't make the same exact tire every year. You'll
end up with two different sets of treads and/or manufacturers if you
constantly only buy one set of tires.

Also, maybe you mean moving front to back/back to front but you don't
actually take the tires off the *rims* when you rotate. You merely
move the entire tire/rim as a single unit.


However, as you mentioned, if the front and rear tires are of
different sizes, the ONLY rotation you can do is left/right and not
front/back.

-max

[Elmo P. Shagnasty]

Post by Max
Front wheel drive cars wear out the front tires
significantly faster than it's rear tires. You'll be replacing the
front tires at nearly a ratio of 2:1 in comparison to the rear tires.
The reverse holds true for rear wheel cars (of which many cars are
still made that way).

Not necessarily.

FWD cars have the front wheels doing all the driving, the steering, and
the braking. Compare that to RWD cars, where the front wheels aren't
doing the driving--they're just turning and braking.

Tire wear is more likely to be more even on a RWD car because of this
division of duties.

[Max]

On Sun, 03 Feb 2008 07:51:23 -0500, "Elmo P. Shagnasty"

Post by Elmo P. Shagnasty

Post by Max
Front wheel drive cars wear out the front tires
significantly faster than it's rear tires. You'll be replacing the
front tires at nearly a ratio of 2:1 in comparison to the rear tires.
The reverse holds true for rear wheel cars (of which many cars are
still made that way).

Not necessarily.
FWD cars have the front wheels doing all the driving, the steering, and
the braking. Compare that to RWD cars, where the front wheels aren't
doing the driving--they're just turning and braking.
Tire wear is more likely to be more even on a RWD car because of this
division of duties.

Front wheel drives are also the drive wheels. That creates additional
stress on the rubber. Pulling foward and being pulled forward cause
much different wear on a tire.

[Grumpy AuContraire]

Post by Elmo P. Shagnasty

Post by Max
Front wheel drive cars wear out the front tires
significantly faster than it's rear tires. You'll be replacing the
front tires at nearly a ratio of 2:1 in comparison to the rear tires.
The reverse holds true for rear wheel cars (of which many cars are
still made that way).

Not necessarily.
FWD cars have the front wheels doing all the driving, the steering, and
the braking. Compare that to RWD cars, where the front wheels aren't
doing the driving--they're just turning and braking.
Tire wear is more likely to be more even on a RWD car because of this
division of duties.

I've found that all of my rear wheel drive vehicles still wear the front
tires first due to engine weight/braking and steering also takes its
toll. OTOH, I have found front end wheel alignments duration much more
durable on the rear drive cars.

Of course, I'm living in the past...

<G>

JT

[jim beam]

Post by Max

Post by h***@h-gee.co.uk
the reason behind this is the move to FWD and the newer train of thought in
fitting different size/width wheels at each end. My new E65 has wider wheels at
the rear than the front I know that BMW isn't the only manufacturers that does
this.
The choice is yours but remember if its a new car the chances are the front
tires (tyres) won't fit the rear rims.
Hugh

Not entirely true. Front wheel drive cars wear out the front tires
significantly faster than it's rear tires. You'll be replacing the
front tires at nearly a ratio of 2:1 in comparison to the rear tires.
The reverse holds true for rear wheel cars (of which many cars are
still made that way).
Rotate them and you'll get longer life out of all four tires.

actually, that's not correct. each time you rotate, the tires have to
scrub to the wear pattern of their new position, so overall average can
be worse. your statement is the common belief based on people tending
to notice tire wear more when not rotated simply because there will
always be one or two wearing more than the others.

Post by Max
Otherwise, you'll be constantly changing a set of tires.

no, just one or two. tire dealers love to sell sets though.

Post by Max
And many
manufacturers don't make the same exact tire every year. You'll
end up with two different sets of treads and/or manufacturers if you
constantly only buy one set of tires.

and? what about cars that have different sizes front/rear? as long as
you have decent rubber front and rear, and the same tires on each axle,
you'll be fine.

Post by Max
Also, maybe you mean moving front to back/back to front but you don't
actually take the tires off the *rims* when you rotate. You merely
move the entire tire/rim as a single unit.
However, as you mentioned, if the front and rear tires are of
different sizes, the ONLY rotation you can do is left/right and not
front/back.

which on a performance vehicle is immediately noticeable with inferior
traction. and you can't even do that if the tires have a rotation
direction, which many do.

[bjn]

Post by jim beam

Post by Jakthehammer
TRUE OR FALSE?
Tire rotation refers to the regular practice of switching the tires...
Purpose: Tire rotation helps to equalize tread wear and is critical to
gain.
BULLSHIT! TIRES USUALLY LAST 2.5 YRS, NOT 4-YRS.
TIRE COMPANIES WANT TO MAKE THING APPEARS LONGER, THEY ASKED YOU TO
ROTATE. YOU LOSE TRACTIONS.

freak though you are, you have a point there - you /do/ lose traction.

Even on all-wheel-drive vehicles?