2011 Explorer to drive momentum. EcoBoost gets Camry MPG

[john]

"Ford executives said today that the 2011 Explorer will get 30% better
fuel efficiency than the outgoing model with a turbocharged EcoBoost
engine and 25% better fuel economy with a standard V6 engine."

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Articles:
http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/sc-biz-0727-ford-explorer-unveiling-20100726,0,3621799.story

http://www.freep.com/article/20100726/BUSINESS01/100726029/1210/2011-Explorer-to-drive-momentum-Ford-says

[Spanky de Monkey]

What happened to Toyota? Do you now realize that you can never afford to
purchase a TOYOTA?

[hls]

Post by Spanky de Monkey
What happened to Toyota? Do you now realize that you can never afford to
purchase a TOYOTA?

After buying two of them new, I dont see how I ever afforded not to buy
Toyota.

[C. E. White]

Post by hls

Post by Spanky de Monkey
What happened to Toyota? Do you now realize that you can never afford to
purchase a TOYOTA?

After buying two of them new, I dont see how I ever afforded not to buy
Toyota.

I don't think you can directly relate vehicle ownership cost to reliability.
Probably the cheapest vehicle in terms of cost per mile i ever owned was one
of the least reliable POS I ever owned - a 1981 Plymouth Reliant. It got
good gas mileage, everything that failed was covered by the warranty, and
when I dumped it after 11 months, the tade in was almost the same as the
original purchase price (remember this was 1980/81 when prices increased
over 10% in less than a year). Heck even the constantly broken British cars
I owned were cheap to own since I drove them for a couple of years and sold
them for almost (or in two cases) more than I bought them for. The parts
were cheap, and my spare time was free.

Ed

[hls]

Post by C. E. White
I don't think you can directly relate vehicle ownership cost to
reliability. Probably the cheapest vehicle in terms of cost per mile i
ever owned was one of the least reliable POS I ever owned - a 1981
Plymouth Reliant. It got good gas mileage, everything that failed was
covered by the warranty, and when I dumped it after 11 months, the tade in
was almost the same as the original purchase price (remember this was
1980/81 when prices increased over 10% in less than a year). Heck even the
constantly broken British cars I owned were cheap to own since I drove
them for a couple of years and sold them for almost (or in two cases) more
than I bought them for. The parts were cheap, and my spare time was free.
Ed

When you have a few that are rather unreliable, it skews the equation, in my
mind.

If you want cheap transportation, a billion Chinese cant be wrong.

I always wanted a Mercedes gullwing, or a Ferrari.. Thanks be to God
that I was never afflicted by one of them.

[CharlesGrozny]

Post by hls

Post by C. E. White
I don't think you can directly relate vehicle ownership cost to
reliability. Probably the cheapest vehicle in terms of cost per mile i
ever owned was one of the least reliable POS I ever owned - a 1981
Plymouth Reliant. It got good gas mileage, everything that failed was
covered by the warranty, and when I dumped it after 11 months, the tade
in was almost the same as the original purchase price (remember this was
1980/81 when prices increased over 10% in less than a year). Heck even
the constantly broken British cars I owned were cheap to own since I
drove them for a couple of years and sold them for almost (or in two
cases) more than I bought them for. The parts were cheap, and my spare
time was free.
Ed

When you have a few that are rather unreliable, it skews the equation, in
my mind.
If you want cheap transportation, a billion Chinese cant be wrong.
I always wanted a Mercedes gullwing, or a Ferrari.. Thanks be to God
that I was never afflicted by one of them.

I have this coworker that says if I want to 'get the chicks', I should get a
Beemer. Why? I could get a 1957 BMW, they called them Isetta as in I
setta, you don't. . . . . I would like to drive a Model T just once to say
I actually did it, though.

Charles Grozny

[Scott Dorsey]

Post by CharlesGrozny
I have this coworker that says if I want to 'get the chicks', I should get a
Beemer. Why? I could get a 1957 BMW, they called them Isetta as in I
setta, you don't. . . . . I would like to drive a Model T just once to say
I actually did it, though.

The Isetta is not exactly practical transportation, but a 2002 is, and
the 2002s can be found for a couple thousand dollars in decent but not
restored condition. They are fun to drive, and people wave at you on
the street. And yes, girls will come up and ask to ride in your car.

You should drive a Model T once in your life so you realize how bad it
is, and you should drive a Model A once in your life so you realize how
much better than a Model T it is. But if you want practical transportation
that is fun to drive and easy to repair and makes women come after you,
buy the BMW 2002.

But don't get one with a Solex carb if you can help it.
--scott

[Vic Smith]

Post by Scott Dorsey

Post by CharlesGrozny
I have this coworker that says if I want to 'get the chicks', I should get a
Beemer. Why? I could get a 1957 BMW, they called them Isetta as in I
setta, you don't. . . . . I would like to drive a Model T just once to say
I actually did it, though.

The Isetta is not exactly practical transportation, but a 2002 is, and
the 2002s can be found for a couple thousand dollars in decent but not
restored condition. They are fun to drive, and people wave at you on
the street. And yes, girls will come up and ask to ride in your car.

Ugly girls that match the looks of that car?
Damn, that thing deserves some ugly mama jokes all for itself.
Sorry. I'd be a virgin if I needed that to score chicks.

Charles, just get a get an ugly little dog that farts a lot and walk
it around near your Vette or Ferrari.
That'll score more chicks and cost less.

--Vic

[CharlesGrozny]

Post by Vic Smith

Post by Scott Dorsey

Post by CharlesGrozny
I have this coworker that says if I want to 'get the chicks', I should get a
Beemer. Why? I could get a 1957 BMW, they called them Isetta as in I
setta, you don't. . . . . I would like to drive a Model T just once to say
I actually did it, though.

The Isetta is not exactly practical transportation, but a 2002 is, and
the 2002s can be found for a couple thousand dollars in decent but not
restored condition. They are fun to drive, and people wave at you on
the street. And yes, girls will come up and ask to ride in your car.

Ugly girls that match the looks of that car?
Damn, that thing deserves some ugly mama jokes all for itself.
Sorry. I'd be a virgin if I needed that to score chicks.
Charles, just get a get an ugly little dog that farts a lot and walk
it around near your Vette or Ferrari.
That'll score more chicks and cost less.
--Vic

Neither have nor want a Vette or a Ferrari. At 52, I still probably can't
afford the insurance. And I've been with the insurance company long enough
that I get some DEEP discounts.

I had a dog, but with my work schedule, I can't keep a pet anymore. I'm
allergic to cats.

I drive Corollas. If I wanted a vintage car, I'd get a 64 Monza
convertible, turbocharged, 4 on the floor. Or a 1926 Bentley marked UW
4887.

Charles Grozny

[CharlesGrozny]

Post by Scott Dorsey

Post by CharlesGrozny
I have this coworker that says if I want to 'get the chicks', I should get a
Beemer. Why? I could get a 1957 BMW, they called them Isetta as in I
setta, you don't. . . . . I would like to drive a Model T just once to say
I actually did it, though.

The Isetta is not exactly practical transportation, but a 2002 is, and
the 2002s can be found for a couple thousand dollars in decent but not
restored condition. They are fun to drive, and people wave at you on
the street. And yes, girls will come up and ask to ride in your car.
You should drive a Model T once in your life so you realize how bad it
is, and you should drive a Model A once in your life so you realize how
much better than a Model T it is. But if you want practical
transportation
that is fun to drive and easy to repair and makes women come after you,
buy the BMW 2002.
But don't get one with a Solex carb if you can help it.
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

Yep, and if I wanted that kind of girl, I'd buy a Beemer. Me, I want
something that is a little less expensive to buy and keep on the road. I
drive Corollas.

Charles Grozny

[hls]

Post by CharlesGrozny
Yep, and if I wanted that kind of girl, I'd buy a Beemer. Me, I want
something that is a little less expensive to buy and keep on the road. I
drive Corollas.

You can drive the car, or the girl, you want. If you have to have
a particular car to get a girl, you need to work on your technique.

[Scott Dorsey]

Post by CharlesGrozny
Yep, and if I wanted that kind of girl, I'd buy a Beemer. Me, I want
something that is a little less expensive to buy and keep on the road. I
drive Corollas.

Good news and bad news on that.

You can get an old Corolla SR5 with the 2TC engine.... it's a really fun car
to drive, and it's weird-looking enough that girls will stop and wave at
you. BUT, try and get parts and the dealer will laugh at you, whereas
BMW still has plenty of 2002 parts on the shelf.

The SR5 was a really cool car, though. Not much acceleration but it handled
better than it had any right to, and it was also easy to work on when you
could get the parts.
--scott

[Brett Storn]

Post by john
"Ford executives said today that the 2011 Explorer will get 30% better
fuel efficiency than the outgoing model with a turbocharged EcoBoost
engine and 25% better fuel economy with a standard V6 engine."
http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/gallery?Avis=C4&Dato=20100726&Kategori=BUSINESS&Lopenr=7260801&Ref=PH

That's one ugly fuckin' vehicle man! Like all POS ford vehicles.

[john]

john's doctor says the need for newsgroup attention is driven by the
fact mommy and daddy didn't give him enough attention as a child, and
his evil uncle fingered his bumbum.

[john]

Pant recall warning here.

I buy special Stainmaster(tm) pants, so that when my Depends leak I
don't have to have them professionally cleaned. My tailor called me
today that said the size 52" waist trousers I bought need to come back
so he can Scotchguard them.