Discussion:
Why was I deleted so quickly?
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anthony mills
2008-06-04 20:34:23 UTC
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I had a question about an oil change and tire rotation. I want to thank
the one person who answered me (and basically confirmed the service
rep's opinion), but I think it STINKS that my post was deleted after
ONLY ONE DAY, after I waited 2 days to be put up on the board (I know I
posted on Saturday). What's wrong with leaving me up there for a while,
so that more people can respond. I see that other groups have 900+
responses. (Since I have WebTV, I don't know how easily I can post to
any other groups.)
DaveW
2008-06-04 21:37:21 UTC
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Post by anthony mills
I had a question about an oil change and tire rotation. I want to thank
the one person who answered me (and basically confirmed the service
rep's opinion), but I think it STINKS that my post was deleted after
ONLY ONE DAY, after I waited 2 days to be put up on the board (I know I
posted on Saturday). What's wrong with leaving me up there for a while,
so that more people can respond. I see that other groups have 900+
responses. (Since I have WebTV, I don't know how easily I can post to
any other groups.)
Your post still appears in this newsgroup to those of us with proper
news servers, and it was posted Saturday. If your WebTV service
doesn't have it any longer or waits two days to show it, that's their
fault, and has nothing to do with this group.

http://www.usenettutorials.com/
01dyna
2008-06-05 15:57:20 UTC
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Post by anthony mills
I had a question about an oil change and tire rotation. I want to thank
the one person who answered me (and basically confirmed the service
rep's opinion), but I think it STINKS that my post was deleted after
ONLY ONE DAY, after I waited 2 days to be put up on the board (I know I
posted on Saturday). What's wrong with leaving me up there for a while,
so that more people can respond. I see that other groups have 900+
responses. (Since I have WebTV, I don't know how easily I can post to
any other groups.)
1. This isn't a "board". It's a newsgroup.

2.Your provider (or subscribed newsfeed) sets the retention limits.
Each provider sets their own retention limits. Mine is a minimum of
one year. Obviously, yours isn't.
anthony mills
2008-06-06 01:30:38 UTC
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To the person who said it was WebTV's fault that I wasn't posted so
fast, I received a message as soon as I was posted that said "Your
message has been posted. It will take some time to appear". I don't
think that was WebTV which responded so fast. As far as the remark that
"if you had a proper newsreader, you'd still be able to read it" I
say, I posted on May 31. I can still read posts on alt.autos.lexus
from May 21. If it's my terrible WebTV reader, why is this true? The
only explanation is that it is not the WebTV reader, but your
administrator/group/board/whatever. I have also posted to other
newsgroups through this WebTV reader, and my posts have stayed up for
weeks. I posted recently, for instance, to a newsgroup on
houses/real estate, and my posts stayed up for weeks, and I got a
number of informative responses. What I want to know is why I was
treated this way.
01dyna
2008-06-06 03:19:41 UTC
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Post by anthony mills
To the person who said it was WebTV's fault that I wasn't posted so
fast, I received a message as soon as I was posted that said "Your
message has been posted. It will take some time to appear". I don't
think that was WebTV which responded so fast. As far as the remark that
"if you had a proper newsreader, you'd still be able to read it" I
say, I posted on May 31. I can still read posts on alt.autos.lexus
from May 21. If it's my terrible WebTV reader, why is this true? The
only explanation is that it is not the WebTV reader, but your
administrator/group/board/whatever. I have also posted to other
newsgroups through this WebTV reader, and my posts have stayed up for
weeks. I posted recently, for instance, to a newsgroup on
houses/real estate, and my posts stayed up for weeks, and I got a
number of informative responses. What I want to know is why I was
treated this way.
uh..Anthony honey......there *isn't* an
"administrator/group/board/whatever" (sic) to an alt.* newsgroup.

DUH
anthony mills
2008-06-06 05:17:43 UTC
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Then why am I being deleted so quickly? Other posts from as early as
May 21 are still up, and my post is no longer there, even though I
posted on May 31. I'd be grateful to whoever could explain this. The
reason I'm bothered about this is 1) I didn't get a chance to E-mail the
answer to myself (and thus save it); 2) I didn't get to benefit from
the advice of others in the newsgroup.
Elmo P. Shagnasty
2008-06-06 11:31:54 UTC
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Post by anthony mills
Then why am I being deleted so quickly?
You aren't.
anthony mills
2008-06-06 18:53:44 UTC
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I'm sorry, but you're wrong. I read my initial post (with one
response), but it was only up for one day. As to the person who said I
need to learn Usenet, I've been using Usenet (through WebTV) for about
10 years, and have never had this problem. And as for the semantic
remarks as to whether this is a board or a post, I just post, and hope
to get a response.

There are posts from May 22 still on this NG. My post is from May 31,
and it is gone. Where is it?
David Z
2008-06-06 21:35:09 UTC
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Post by anthony mills
There are posts from May 22 still on this NG. My post is
from May 31, and it is gone. Where is it?
Complain to the moderator. That bastard must be out to get you.
St. John Smythe
2008-06-06 22:31:28 UTC
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Post by David Z
Post by anthony mills
There are posts from May 22 still on this NG. My post is
from May 31, and it is gone. Where is it?
Complain to the moderator. That bastard must be out to get you.
+1
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sjs
01dyna
2008-06-07 00:48:51 UTC
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Post by anthony mills
I'm sorry, but you're wrong. I read my initial post (with one
response), but it was only up for one day. As to the person who said I
need to learn Usenet, I've been using Usenet (through WebTV) for about
10 years, and have never had this problem. And as for the semantic
remarks as to whether this is a board or a post, I just post, and hope
to get a response.
There are posts from May 22 still on this NG. My post is from May 31,
and it is gone. Where is it?
christ almighty...you weren't dropped on your head, you were double
dribbled.
anthony mills
2008-06-08 02:16:54 UTC
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Very sorry about the confusion; I just found my message (and the
response).

i honestly don't know if my original post was there all along, and I
just didn't see it; I do know that I should given my post an original
name (as I usually do) instead of just leaving it at Re: Lexus oil
change interval is only 5000 miles? This may have made it more
difficult to keep track of the post.

Much thanks to you, Ray O; at least YOUR response was constructive
and helpful. I especially appreciate your remarks about oil viscosity
and tires. BTW, I wasn't able to access tirerack,com using WebTV, but
I'll try soon on a computer.

As for the rest of the group, I do appreciate the Wikipedia reference
from St.John Smythe. I'll read it sometime.
Ray O
2008-06-08 02:28:31 UTC
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Post by anthony mills
Very sorry about the confusion; I just found my message (and the
response).
i honestly don't know if my original post was there all along, and I
just didn't see it; I do know that I should given my post an original
name (as I usually do) instead of just leaving it at Re: Lexus oil
change interval is only 5000 miles? This may have made it more
difficult to keep track of the post.
Much thanks to you, Ray O; at least YOUR response was constructive
and helpful. I especially appreciate your remarks about oil viscosity
and tires. BTW, I wasn't able to access tirerack,com using WebTV, but
I'll try soon on a computer.
As for the rest of the group, I do appreciate the Wikipedia reference
from St.John Smythe. I'll read it sometime.
You're welcome!

I know nothing about WebTV so I don't know if there is a difference in web
sites that you can see with it as opposed to a conventional computer with
internet access. By the way, it is tirerack.com with a period (.), not a
comma (,).
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Ray O
(correct punctuation to reply)
St. John Smythe
2008-06-06 10:34:34 UTC
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Post by anthony mills
To the person who said it was WebTV's fault that I wasn't posted so
fast, I received a message as soon as I was posted that said "Your
message has been posted. It will take some time to appear". I don't
think that was WebTV which responded so fast. As far as the remark that
"if you had a proper newsreader, you'd still be able to read it" I
say, I posted on May 31. I can still read posts on alt.autos.lexus
from May 21. If it's my terrible WebTV reader, why is this true? The
only explanation is that it is not the WebTV reader, but your
administrator/group/board/whatever. I have also posted to other
newsgroups through this WebTV reader, and my posts have stayed up for
weeks. I posted recently, for instance, to a newsgroup on
houses/real estate, and my posts stayed up for weeks, and I got a
number of informative responses. What I want to know is why I was
treated this way.
Good grief, learn a bit about Usenet before flinging accusations.
(Hint: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usenet>) There IS NO single
administrator or group of administrators on Usenet; it is a distributed
forum with tens of thousands servers around the world, each under
independent control. It's pretty unlikely that those tens of thousands
of administrators have conspired to delete a message from Anthony Mills.

In addition, alt.autos.lexus is an unmoderated group, which means, uh,
that it's not moderated.

Now please apologize to all the nice people.
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sjs
St. John Smythe
2008-06-06 10:44:19 UTC
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Post by anthony mills
I had a question about an oil change and tire rotation. I want to thank
the one person who answered me (and basically confirmed the service
rep's opinion), but I think it STINKS that my post was deleted after
ONLY ONE DAY, after I waited 2 days to be put up on the board (I know I
posted on Saturday). What's wrong with leaving me up there for a while,
so that more people can respond. I see that other groups have 900+
responses. (Since I have WebTV, I don't know how easily I can post to
any other groups.)
There is no board. This is Usenet.

Just did a Google search of messages posted to alt.autos.lexus by
anthony mills, and found only three: the ones where you're complaining
about being deleted. Found no evidence that your initial inquiry ever
got posted. Best guess: it never made it past whatever news server is
used by WebTV. Just a guess.

Do you understand how Usenet works yet?
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sjs
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