Where to do brakes?

[mcbrue]

Was in the shop the other day and noted that a brake job for the 2006
LS430 costs $1195 for rotors and caliper pads. That is a bit high I
think. Are there any reliable places to look for something of the same
quality but about half that cost or less?

[old man]

If the rotors (Disks?) on a 2006 430 need replacing there is something
drastically wrong, unless maybe you've done 100k miles

Post by mcbrue
Was in the shop the other day and noted that a brake job for the 2006
LS430 costs $1195 for rotors and caliper pads. That is a bit high I
think. Are there any reliable places to look for something of the same
quality but about half that cost or less?

[j***@hotmail.com]

Toyota had TSBs out on rotors warping since 2002. I think they've
switched over to a cheap rotor source, maybe in southeast Asia like
all the cheap oil filters are from.

Post by old man
If the rotors (Disks?) on a 2006 430 need replacing there is something
drastically wrong, unless maybe you've done 100k miles

[nopcbs]

Midas.

The local shop is GREAT.

I had them turn my rotors on my LS400 once and when it did not work out (a
bit of dirt prevented a square mounting on the lathe), they replaced all
four rotors at no charge.

That was 40,000 miles ago and the replacement rotors/pads work great.

Cost would have been around $500.

GRL

Post by mcbrue
Was in the shop the other day and noted that a brake job for the 2006
LS430 costs $1195 for rotors and caliper pads. That is a bit high I
think. Are there any reliable places to look for something of the same
quality but about half that cost or less?

["" <Curtis Newton>]

Post by mcbrue
Was in the shop the other day and noted that a brake job for the 2006
LS430 costs $1195 for rotors and caliper pads. That is a bit high I
think. Are there any reliable places to look for something of the same
quality but about half that cost or less?

Find a shop that specializes in Lexus/Toyota and take it there. For
our RX330, I had new OEM rotors and pads installed for $350. The
LS430 would have to be a similar price.

I wouldn't think you would require the caliper's being replaced and/or
rebuilt on a 2006; how many miles by the way???

[stu]

Don't touch the rotors unless they are warped.

Post by mcbrue
Was in the shop the other day and noted that a brake job for the 2006
LS430 costs $1195 for rotors and caliper pads. That is a bit high I
think. Are there any reliable places to look for something of the same
quality but about half that cost or less?

[Ray O]

Post by mcbrue
Was in the shop the other day and noted that a brake job for the 2006
LS430 costs $1195 for rotors and caliper pads. That is a bit high I
think. Are there any reliable places to look for something of the same
quality but about half that cost or less?

Rotors should last 80,000 miles unless they are warped or pad replacement
was delayed so long that they have scored the rotors. You could replace the
rotors and pads yourself for about a quarter of the cost.

[mcbrue]

The 06 LS 430 is a year old (well it was sold to me as a new car but
had been used for 500 miles and was actualy produced in 12/05 and I
bot it in 8/06) and has 20,000 miles on it. About 9,000 of the miles
are from a couple of road trips we took in it. The little used-up -
brake lights are not coming on yet, but I think it needs all rotors
and pads because it has so much rough stopping and vibrating. I just
don't think any car, even one of the rice burners, should have that
bad of brakes regardless of what the stealership says. So I am looking
for a reasonable place to replace them. I do not work on cars myself -
there are better and more economical uses for my time, but $1,150
begins to sound a bit high for brakes. They say they only chareg $100
per hour for labour, but I doubt that. With the labour charge, I think
they have bundled some of the shop costs because I doubt that many of
the mechanics exceed $125,000 per year. But at that rate, perhaps
there are some equaly qualified brake mechanics that I can trust my
life to that don't charge quite so much.

[Anonymous]

WTF!!


A Lexus with 20K miles needs brake pads? Not to
mention rotors? No American car I've *ever* own-
ed needed pads/rotors at 20K, and certainly not at
$1.2K

Unfortunately, having replaced my wife's 6 year old
Tahoe with an LS430, I'm beginning to rethink that
decision. What's next, exhaust system(s) good only
for 50K? Top end overhaul at 75K?

Post by mcbrue
The 06 LS 430 is a year old (well it was sold to me as a new car but
had been used for 500 miles and was actualy produced in 12/05 and I
bot it in 8/06) and has 20,000 miles on it. About 9,000 of the miles
are from a couple of road trips we took in it. The little used-up -
brake lights are not coming on yet, but I think it needs all rotors
and pads because it has so much rough stopping and vibrating. I just
don't think any car, even one of the rice burners, should have that
bad of brakes regardless of what the stealership says. So I am looking
for a reasonable place to replace them. I do not work on cars myself -
there are better and more economical uses for my time, but $1,150
begins to sound a bit high for brakes. They say they only chareg $100
per hour for labour, but I doubt that. With the labour charge, I think
they have bundled some of the shop costs because I doubt that many of
the mechanics exceed $125,000 per year. But at that rate, perhaps
there are some equaly qualified brake mechanics that I can trust my
life to that don't charge quite so much.

[Matthew]

Depends on how one uses their brakes. If they abuse the hell out of
them...constant hard stops, "riding" the brakes etc, the rotors can go at a
very young age, as little as 15-20k miles!! Keep in mind that the rotors on
Japanese cars are quite a bit thinner than American cars. Resurface them
once and that's it! Also the aftermarket rotors tend to be better then the
OEM in some instances, i.e. Brembo.

Post by Anonymous
WTF!!
A Lexus with 20K miles needs brake pads? Not to
mention rotors? No American car I've *ever* own-
ed needed pads/rotors at 20K, and certainly not at
$1.2K
Unfortunately, having replaced my wife's 6 year old
Tahoe with an LS430, I'm beginning to rethink that
decision. What's next, exhaust system(s) good only
for 50K? Top end overhaul at 75K?

Post by mcbrue
The 06 LS 430 is a year old (well it was sold to me as a new car but
had been used for 500 miles and was actualy produced in 12/05 and I
bot it in 8/06) and has 20,000 miles on it. About 9,000 of the miles
are from a couple of road trips we took in it. The little used-up -
brake lights are not coming on yet, but I think it needs all rotors
and pads because it has so much rough stopping and vibrating. I just
don't think any car, even one of the rice burners, should have that
bad of brakes regardless of what the stealership says. So I am looking
for a reasonable place to replace them. I do not work on cars myself -
there are better and more economical uses for my time, but $1,150
begins to sound a bit high for brakes. They say they only chareg $100
per hour for labour, but I doubt that. With the labour charge, I think
they have bundled some of the shop costs because I doubt that many of
the mechanics exceed $125,000 per year. But at that rate, perhaps
there are some equaly qualified brake mechanics that I can trust my
life to that don't charge quite so much.

[Edgar]

Since McStupid posted that, it would stand to reason. He is way to stupid
to own any car, less a Lexus. He probably drives around with the parking
brake on. Or thinks that the brake pedal is a foot rest. I am sure he will
have numerous complaints about the brakes even if he does get them done...

Post by Matthew
Depends on how one uses their brakes. If they abuse the hell out of
them...constant hard stops, "riding" the brakes etc, the rotors can go at
a very young age, as little as 15-20k miles!! Keep in mind that the rotors
on Japanese cars are quite a bit thinner than American cars. Resurface
them once and that's it! Also the aftermarket rotors tend to be better
then the OEM in some instances, i.e. Brembo.

[GIga]

Thanks for bringing some sanity to this thread. I've got a 2004 LS430 with
46K miles on it and nothing has gone wrong with it to date. The fact that
the Brew-jerk thinks that he needs new brakes/rotors is just a symptom of
his overactive stupidity. Of course, the theory that he rides around with
his foot on the brake makes sense given his propensity for moronic behavior,
so for those of you who value reality, I'd simply read any of his postings
for pure amusement only. No car manufacturer produces flawless vehicles,
and wear items (like brakes for example) do eventually wear out (why do you
think they call them "wear" items?). Compared to the crap that Mercedes and
BMW serves up, I'll take the Lexus any day of the week.

GIga

Post by Edgar
Since McStupid posted that, it would stand to reason. He is way to
stupid to own any car, less a Lexus. He probably drives around with the
parking brake on. Or thinks that the brake pedal is a foot rest. I am
sure he will have numerous complaints about the brakes even if he does get
them done...

Post by Matthew
Depends on how one uses their brakes. If they abuse the hell out of
them...constant hard stops, "riding" the brakes etc, the rotors can go at
a very young age, as little as 15-20k miles!! Keep in mind that the
rotors on Japanese cars are quite a bit thinner than American cars.
Resurface them once and that's it! Also the aftermarket rotors tend to be
better then the OEM in some instances, i.e. Brembo.

[mcbrue]

Ahhh yes! Good helpfull information. Delivered with great love and
care for his fellow man... What a great man ... er ... woman ... er,
well, maybe a great human? Wonder why I am thinking of the Adams
family ...

[GIga]

How's that McBrew-Dick theme song go again? If I only had a brain...

(Helpful only has one "l". See? I'm being "Helpful")

Post by mcbrue
Ahhh yes! Good helpfull information. Delivered with great love and
care for his fellow man... What a great man ... er ... woman ... er,
well, maybe a great human? Wonder why I am thinking of the Adams
family ...

[j***@hotmail.com]

The excellent OEM Akebono brake pads for the front: $58.79 (ACT870)
and rear: $50.79 (ACT871) on rockauto.com. And as far as rotors go,
these are dealer only items, which means an arm and a leg.

But Toyota has been having problems with under-designed rotors since
2002. I don't know where they get these newer, cheap rotors from, but
they warp easily.

Post by mcbrue
Was in the shop the other day and noted that a brake job for the 2006
LS430 costs $1195 for rotors and caliper pads. That is a bit high I
think. Are there any reliable places to look for something of the same
quality but about half that cost or less?