Accelerator problem only affecting US made Toyota models

[Hachiroku ハチロク]

If your VIN begins with JT, you're in good shape. This is only affecting
US models.

[C. E. White]

Post by Hachiroku ハチロク
If your VIN begins with JT, you're in good shape. This is only
affecting
US models.

Is this really true? All of the 2010 Highlanders I looked at are made
in Japan and they are on the recall list. So are 2009-2010 RAV4s. The
only US/Japan split is see is for Camry's. Otherwise the recall
affects Toyota produced in Japan, Europe, and the US. Maybe if your
Camry was made in Japan, it might be true, but it seems they are
constantly expanding this recall....

http://pressroom.toyota.com/pr/tms/toyota/toyota-amends-recall-on-potential-153214.aspx?ncid=11092
http://pressroom.toyota.com/pr/tms/toyota/toyota-consumer-safety-advisory-102572.aspx

Ed

[Mike Hunter]

Back to the river

Post by Hachiroku ハチロク
If your VIN begins with JT, you're in good shape. This is only affecting
US models.

Is this really true? All of the 2010 Highlanders I looked at are made in
Japan and they are on the recall list. So are 2009-2010 RAV4s. The only
US/Japan split is see is for Camry's. Otherwise the recall affects Toyota
produced in Japan, Europe, and the US. Maybe if your Camry was made in
Japan, it might be true, but it seems they are constantly expanding this
recall....
http://pressroom.toyota.com/pr/tms/toyota/toyota-amends-recall-on-potential-153214.aspx?ncid=11092
http://pressroom.toyota.com/pr/tms/toyota/toyota-consumer-safety-advisory-102572.aspx
Ed

[SnoBrdr]

Post by C. E. White

Post by Hachiroku ハチロク
If your VIN begins with JT, you're in good shape. This is only affecting
US models.

Is this really true? All of the 2010 Highlanders I looked at are made
in Japan and they are on the recall list. So are 2009-2010 RAV4s. The
only US/Japan split is see is for Camry's. Otherwise the recall
affects Toyota produced in Japan, Europe, and the US. Maybe if your
Camry was made in Japan, it might be true, but it seems they are
constantly expanding this recall....
http://pressroom.toyota.com/pr/tms/toyota/toyota-amends-recall-on-potential-153214.aspx?ncid=11092
http://pressroom.toyota.com/pr/tms/toyota/toyota-consumer-safety-advisory-102572.aspx
Ed

http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/industry_sectors/engineering/article7005877.ece

Toyota’s massive recall of more than seven million vehicles in the
United States — sparked by reliability problems with accelerator
pedals — is to be extended to Europe and China, the company revealed
today.

The announcements came hours after the company added a further 1.09
million vehicles to the tally of cars involved in its US recall. It is
thought that at least 75,000 vehicles will be recalled in China.

[studio]

To me it sounds awfully suspicious that Toyota is all-the-sudden doing
as bad as the big 3.

I would agree with someone who said; "Toyota needs to remember they're
a car company and not a finance company".

[Hachiroku ハチロク]

Post by studio
To me it sounds awfully suspicious that Toyota is all-the-sudden doing
as bad as the big 3.
I would agree with someone who said; "Toyota needs to remember they're
a car company and not a finance company".

It was bound to happen.
I said something about this years ago.
You make 1.2 million cars a year, with a 1% defect rate. That's 12,000
cars with defects. All of a sudden you have 12 million output per year,
you're now at 120,000 defects. Then you have a situation that comes up
where the same defective part is spread across model lines, be it a bad
accelerator or bad programming, and that's amplified even further.

I had a feeling something like this would happen when I got in a brand new
Camry in 2000, a loaner while my Corolla was being fixed, and the power
window jammed on the way down...

However, I believe you won't see this happen at Toyota again for quite a
while...if ever.

[dr_jeff]

Post by studio
To me it sounds awfully suspicious that Toyota is all-the-sudden doing
as bad as the big 3.
I would agree with someone who said; "Toyota needs to remember they're
a car company and not a finance company".

I think it has a lot more to do with Toyota's very rapid growth.

[Hachiroku ハチロク]

Post by dr_jeff

Post by studio
To me it sounds awfully suspicious that Toyota is all-the-sudden doing
as bad as the big 3.
I would agree with someone who said; "Toyota needs to remember they're
a car company and not a finance company".

I think it has a lot more to do with Toyota's very rapid growth.

I would have to agree 100%.

WHAT?!?!?! I AGREED with Jeff!!???

I was saying exactly the same thing when I was getting my car inspected
this morning. In a effort to become #1, they just plain went too fast.

Er, shoot. Maybe I should rephrase that...

[Sir F. A. Rien]

Post by dr_jeff

Post by studio
To me it sounds awfully suspicious that Toyota is all-the-sudden doing
as bad as the big 3.
I would agree with someone who said; "Toyota needs to remember they're
a car company and not a finance company".

I think it has a lot more to do with Toyota's very rapid growth.

Rate of growth ususally results in supply and manufacturing problems, not,
as may seem in this case, a design problem. Across board in many models,
cable or FBW, so not linked to something 'temporary'.

I'd be looking at the computer.

[dr_jeff]

Post by Sir F. A. Rien

Post by dr_jeff

Post by studio
To me it sounds awfully suspicious that Toyota is all-the-sudden doing
as bad as the big 3.
I would agree with someone who said; "Toyota needs to remember they're
a car company and not a finance company".

I think it has a lot more to do with Toyota's very rapid growth.

Rate of growth ususally results in supply and manufacturing problems, not,
as may seem in this case, a design problem. Across board in many models,
cable or FBW, so not linked to something 'temporary'.
I'd be looking at the computer.

Yeah, and it is designing cars and trucks for many different models.

Rapid growth also results in culture problems, which is what Toyota
seems to be suffering from.

[Sir F. A. Rien]

Post by dr_jeff

Post by Sir F. A. Rien

Post by dr_jeff

Post by studio
To me it sounds awfully suspicious that Toyota is all-the-sudden doing
as bad as the big 3.
I would agree with someone who said; "Toyota needs to remember they're
a car company and not a finance company".

I think it has a lot more to do with Toyota's very rapid growth.

Rate of growth ususally results in supply and manufacturing problems, not,
as may seem in this case, a design problem. Across board in many models,
cable or FBW, so not linked to something 'temporary'.
I'd be looking at the computer.

Yeah, and it is designing cars and trucks for many different models.
Rapid growth also results in culture problems, which is what Toyota
seems to be suffering from.

'Wrong' computer ... throttle system!

[Hachiroku ハチロク]

Post by C. E. White

Post by Hachiroku ハチロク
If your VIN begins with JT, you're in good shape. This is only affecting
US models.

Is this really true? All of the 2010 Highlanders I looked at are made
in Japan and they are on the recall list. So are 2009-2010 RAV4s. The
only US/Japan split is see is for Camry's. Otherwise the recall
affects Toyota produced in Japan, Europe, and the US. Maybe if your
Camry was made in Japan, it might be true, but it seems they are
constantly expanding this recall....
http://pressroom.toyota.com/pr/tms/toyota/toyota-amends-recall-on-potential-153214.aspx?ncid=11092
http://pressroom.toyota.com/pr/tms/toyota/toyota-consumer-safety-advisory-102572.aspx
Ed

I just repeated what Brian Williams said on the NBC Nightly News Wednesday.